I'm a new account and I'm broadly positive about it. At the very least, I think it's a huge improvement on the previous seasons.
The goal of any long running franchise is survivability. To continue going. If they decide to turn this the direction of the franchise, it will not survive. You need to bring in new viewers. And this season probably turned a lot of potential viewers off. It’s been too insular.
A lot of virtrol and bubbling anger.
I get that not every episode is for everyone, but I don't understand people who say that the plot/concept/execution of this episode was somehow worse than anything else we've had over the last 35/36 years.
Was it campy? Yeah of course, but every Star Trek villian has been.
I think the implication is Jack/Vox only took control of the under 25s on Starfleet ships. Bases and the like were not compromised, because they weren't wired into that stupid fleet integration software.
This season was essentially a screen version of a Star Trek convention.I think the Star Trek franchise has just jumped the shark with this episode. The rampant nostalgia factor was bad enough, but this is ridiculous.
Completely forgotten.I doubt anyone remembered Elnor, they just wanted Big Name Ship to fall to the Borg. If they need the character for later, he'll show up.
Good Star Trek isn't about "villains." This wasn't supposed to be James Bond. It only turned into that because of stupid ego case actors who only agreed to make more Star Trek if the producers would indulge their insanity.
It's really amazing how far people's standards have dropped. Khan wasn't a "villain." He was a tragic figure who was used to explore the premise of how humans react to situations they can't win (such as growing old and losing the people close to you).
Amanda Plummer's character (can't even remember the name because the character was such a laughable piece of crap) was AWFUL and didn't explore ANYTHING interesting.
It's SWILL. Utter swill.
I hope so! I definitely think Discovery brought in new fans, and hopefully Prodigy has too.We’ve seen new voices on these forums with this series, and I think it’s doing better at pulling in casual viewers from back in the day than s1 did after its media blitz.
Whilst yes, those movies were all there was when first released, I am thinking more that like those films, this may have all kinds of call backs to an older cast but people might still watch it and like it and be drawn in.
I think it is growing the fan base rather than diminishing it for once.
And I did say that's fine for THIS show. But so many fans are screaming that they want more and more "Terry Trek". Trek that in no way will expand the franchise.I don't think every show has that responsibility. Shows can have whatever specific purpose they want and target the audience they want. They don't need to appeal to everyone.
No he was a big massive fascist dictator.It's really amazing how far people's standards have dropped. Khan wasn't a "villain." He was a tragic figure who was used to explore the premise of how humans react to situations they can't win (such as growing old and losing the people close to you).
I don’t not think she was the captain of that vessel. Just in charge of the Frontier Day fleetShelby was a bit of a dark joke harking back to the time she told Riker she wants to be on the Enterprise. She got her 5 mins on the bridge and then boom, death by Borg.
Even so, just being on that bridge...head canon would like to think this is the first time she sat on an Enterprise captains chair.I don’t not think she was the captain of that vessel. Just in charge of the Frontier Day fleet
And I did say that's fine for THIS show. But so many fans are screaming that they want more and more "Terry Trek". Trek that in no way will expand the franchise.
The new season 1 and season 2 characters were terrible. There was nothing there to explore.
What's incredible is that I have absolutely no doubt that they're going to just dump the changeling thread and the "mystery face." Laughable crap.
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