Disagree here. I think the fleet integration software and the transporters were two separate issues. Any under 25s 'in range' of the signal who'd been through one of the transporters would be affected. So there are probably lots of them running around on Earth shooting people.
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x09 - "Võx"
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Disagree here. I think the fleet integration software and the transporters were two separate issues. Any under 25s 'in range' of the signal who'd been through one of the transporters would be affected. So there are probably lots of them running around on Earth shooting people.
I'm addicted to this board today! But TBH I think the franchise jumped the shark with the decon scenes in Enterprise or with Janeway getting assimilated in Voyager. Ever since the late 90s they've been trying to reclaim the magic.
Perhaps the showrunners grossly underestimated how popular Captain Shaw would prove to be. They've created a situation similar to Phil Coulson in the Marvel universe, and they resurrected him for a TV show with some explanation that escapes me now.
As for the episode itself, the Borg's method here (I can't think of a better way to describe it) was done cleverly, but I am nonetheless weary of the Borg as the big bad. However, I'm also wanting to have my cake and eat it too as I would've been equally upset if it were Pah-Wraith for example because they were a DS9 and not TNG villain.
They also kind Kobayashi Maru'ed themselves with the Enterprise-D reveal. I agree their morale is much too high given what happened, but a return to the D had to be a feel-good moment.
As for the episode itself, the Borg's method here (I can't think of a better way to describe it) was done cleverly, but I am nonetheless weary of the Borg as the big bad. However, I'm also wanting to have my cake and eat it too as I would've been equally upset if it were Pah-Wraith for example because they were a DS9 and not TNG villain.
They also kind Kobayashi Maru'ed themselves with the Enterprise-D reveal. I agree their morale is much too high given what happened, but a return to the D had to be a feel-good moment.
I've been kind of wondering about this myself.
It seemed to imply that orbital defenses/Starbase 001 were not impacted, since the fleet was about to begin bombardment. No reason to do so if they had also taken them over.
This is almost dumber than a bag of hammers but I had fun.
I couldn't say that last season.
I couldn't say that last season.
I don't think every show has that responsibility. Shows can have whatever specific purpose they want and target the audience they want. They don't need to appeal to everyone.
The goal of any long running franchise is survivability. To continue going. If they decide to turn this the direction of the franchise, it will not survive. You need to bring in new viewers. And this season probably turned a lot of potential viewers off. It’s been too insular.
Well even if you are pretty confident, destroying orbital defences is probably a good first move! There are probably a lot of people 25+ there, and some may be automatic. The borg don't need them, and they are too much of a potential tool for a human fightback. Destroying them is just sensible.
Are you referencing the famous New Yorker review of TWOK as 'wonderful dumb fun'?
The people writing this show are such hacks that nothing is off the table. Reusing the Borg for the 10th time, time travel shenannigans, even a "Q's death was a fake out" ass pull would be about par for the course.
Just awful. I'd be ashamed of putting out something this low quality.
Just awful. I'd be ashamed of putting out something this low quality.
A lot of virtrol and bubbling anger.
I get that not every episode is for everyone, but I don't understand people who say that the plot/concept/execution of this episode was somehow worse than anything else we've had over the last 35/36 years.
Was it campy? Yeah of course, but every Star Trek villian has been.
I get that not every episode is for everyone, but I don't understand people who say that the plot/concept/execution of this episode was somehow worse than anything else we've had over the last 35/36 years.
Was it campy? Yeah of course, but every Star Trek villian has been.
I wonder if he's actually dead. Yes, he's eyes open not breathing, but what if a few nanoprobes could leave him temporarily assimilated and restore him later when everyone else is presumably de-Borgified? Dunno though, he's probably dead.
We’ve seen new voices on these forums with this series, and I think it’s doing better at pulling in casual viewers from back in the day than s1 did after its media blitz.
Whilst yes, those movies were all there was when first released, I am thinking more that like those films, this may have all kinds of call backs to an older cast but people might still watch it and like it and be drawn in.
I think it is growing the fan base rather than diminishing it for once.
