Yes, I enjoyed that - it's sometimes fun for the audience to know more than the characters.
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x08 - "Surrender"
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Yes, I enjoyed that - it's sometimes fun for the audience to know more than the characters.
Here's hoping.
And I guess the Shrike wasn't ALL THAT after all, was she? Went down like a bitch.
After "No Win Scenario," I did see some comments online that wondered whether the Riker storyline (of him going from a dour outlook on life to being able to feel the beauty of the universe again), as well as the scene of him apologizing to Troi, might be metacommentary from the writers and producers acknowledging a shift in tone and course correction for the series.
TROI: You haven't said anything as lovely as that in a very long time.
RIKER: I know. And that's on me. And I'm sorry. I'm gonna fix it. With you.
See, I don't find modern Trek dark or overly violent, except in passing moments. The swearing is to me a good thing, too. I take your point about the sloughing off, but (and this is down to personal taste) I find the visual darkness of this season oppressive, along with the amount of wanton shooting and cruelty. It seems like all the TNG characters don't hesitate to kill and then vaporize, and the uniformity of this tendency suggests it's a matter of Matalas's taste rather than a character-driven choice. The way the aesthetic and narrative choices seem to be prolonged is simply too much for me. It feels like the show is one big rut of ugliness to me. I realize it's different for others.
We'll have to agree to disagree there. I found there to be a lovely lyricism to Season 1, from Picard's vineyard to Kestra's imagination to the general look and feel of Nepenthe, to the sliding in socks down the corridor, to the space orchids. And there were tonal shifts, like the masquerade in Stardust City Rag or the total TOS throwback with the android planet. For me, those moments of weirdness and wonder, the sheer ability of the show to play all sorts of notes, gave the proceedings a well-rounded feeling even when the execution didn't entirely work. The simple fact of there being a variety of settings helped immensely for me personally.
I know I'm in the minority here, though!
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I agree. The casual brutality is something I don't like, and I didn't like the beheading in season 1, either. Still, season 3 has taken it to a whole new level. That's why I made the "Star Trek Phaser" instead of "Star Trek Picard" comment earlier. Granted, it's just my viewpoint, but I found it absurd on a whole new level watching a team of Septuagenarians and Octogenarians moving around a ship like they're special forces, pointing phasers in everybody's face, and the return response? More phasers.
I just don't like it. Tonally, it feels depressing as hell. The only good moments are those sweet little motifs that harken back to TNG itself, like Data and Geordi's friendship, Riker and Troi's affection for each other, and the rest just feels so bogged down. I know there are lots of people here who love this season, and I don't mean to take away from them, but I am honestly riding this out to see how it ends, and that's it. Season 1 was good, season 2 was better, season 3, I also feel undid everything seasons 1 and 2 tried to create. They're two totally separate shows, IMO. Star Trek: Picard ended after season 2, and then we got Star Trek: Member When? with legacy characters and casual gun play.
Love it!
Picard S3, "The Wrath of Ronin."
Sorry Jean Luc, Beverly thought Jack was yours, but someone slipped in there ahead of you...
The "Evolution" wasn't chosen, or determined by environmental factors. It was forced on them by a Section 31 Scientist experimenting on their physiology to be better at mimic-ing Biological Solids for espionage purposes.
The modifications may have come with some "Down-sides" that makes them particularly weak.
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Funny how a couple of photon torpedo's fired from pointblank range at a unshielded ship will do that.
Kamin is a good point - the red destruction could be the nova that destroyed their world
And the BoP as well, as seen in TVH
That had the earlier TNG design, IIRC. This one here was the later version.
Did he have a badge and rankpins? It also looks like none of the other shirts, so it's probably not a uniform. Though you can never be sure with these designers
Maybe whatever he had in his parietal lobe wasn't a fiber implant
The sound was odd though. Troi also had one, but maybe she just took Worf's...?
And those were how many episodes?
The Borg symbol was red, and so are their lasers
subtitles disagree
Didn't Beverly and her ancestors have green eyes when possessed? I think even the corpse got green eyes when it was briefly taken. Perhaps these lifeforms have different colors, and Jack is possessed by a red one (or perhaps males are green and females are red)
They finally show personalized hand held shields.
=D
Also I think the big bad is Dukaht with Pah-Wraith powers =D.
Irumodic Syndrome isn't what most people think it is.
Those are essences of Pah-Wraith =D
=D
Also I think the big bad is Dukaht with Pah-Wraith powers =D.
Irumodic Syndrome isn't what most people think it is.
Those are essences of Pah-Wraith =D
What did I miss out on?
Lots of fun =D
And it's not some Jerry Rigged Contraption like what Worf did in the Holodeck.
Yes, but they were MUCH bigger. Equipment that you had to set into place and activate to create a giant networked Force Field wall.
When Nella Darren was setting up Thermal Deflector Units, she was down planet side trying to stop a Fire Storm on
Bersallis III which threatened a Federation Outpost.
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Maybe they nicked it from Daystrom?Lots of fun =D
And it's not some Jerry Rigged Contraption like what Worf did in the Holodeck.
Yes, but they were MUCH bigger. Equipment that you had to set into place and activate to create a giant networked Force Field wall.
When Nella Darren was setting up Thermal Deflector Units, she was down planet side trying to stop a Fire Storm on
Bersallis III which threatened a Federation Outpost.
Still not seeing how that is "random". As for "vengeance"... Was Seven supposed to arrest Bjayzl? A woman who had used her, manipulated her, and ordered the torture and dismemberment of her surrogate son? How likely is it that Seven would have been able to "bring her in"? How likely was it that Bjayzl would ever have faced justice? I'm not in any way, shape or form an eye for an eye person (I've always liked Gandhi's take on that phrase) and so-called "capital punishment" is an abomination that has no place in any genuinely civilised society. But I had no issue with Bjayzl's fate.
As for Seven being "better served" this season...sure. She's finally in Starfleet, so that's a plus. Serving as first officer to a rule-loving jerk who has so little respect for her he won't even call her by her name. That's ...progress? I'm not at all convinced. But whatever. Your mileage clearly varies. So be it.
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Didn't Beverly and her ancestors have green eyes when possessed? I think even the corpse got green eyes when it was briefly taken. Perhaps these lifeforms have different colors, and Jack is possessed by a red one (or perhaps males are green and females are red) [/QUOTE]
Gary Mitchell and Elizabeth Dehner both had silver eyes when they became super psi. So far Jack is mainly showing psychic abilities — telepathy, precognition, the ability to take control of another person’s body for a brief period — and is having a very hard time controlling it. There might be more cause for concern if he were evil or selfish but he seems to be using his powers for good thus far. It could be that he’s been possessed by some pah wraith or some other energy being and this creature is the source of the abilities, not Jack, or that it came from his parents. Maybe Charles Xavier is one of his ancestors.
[/QUOTE]Gary Mitchell and Elizabeth Dehner both had silver eyes when they became super psi. So far Jack is mainly showing psychic abilities — telepathy, precognition, the ability to take control of another person’s body for a brief period — and is having a very hard time controlling it. There might be more cause for concern if he were evil or selfish but he seems to be using his powers for good thus far. It could be that he’s been possessed by some pah wraith or some other energy being and this creature is the source of the abilities, not Jack, or that it came from his parents. Maybe Charles Xavier is one of his ancestors.
So after a few dozen years somebody finally figured out out to miniaturize it.
Heh ... probably another goal that Section-31 was hard-pressed to achieve.
Well I still think Troi's line of: "You went to help Picard and put half a Galaxy between us..."
Is referring to what Riker did at the end of Picard S1. To be put in command of that Fleet he had to reenlist in Starfleet; so he's been back in Starfleet, and away from Troi and his daughter for about 2 years at this point. So yeah it probably was a while since he said anything that personal to Deanna Troi.
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