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I bet not everyone noticed, which why I called it subtle.

It might be obvious to you, but I've been astonished with people not noticing things I thought was utterly obvious and/or "right in front of your face".

Fair point. I have encountered the very same thing in life many times.

It just seemed to me that noticing the stripe, which is rather hard to see at times already, that the lack of collar to a collared uniform would be a very noticeable difference.
 
What were we talking about here? The Academy show, right?

There's roughly a 100% chance the uniforms will change.

Anyhow, here's my power rankings of Discovery regulars likely to appear:

1. SMG (No brainer, guest)
2. Tilly
3. Vance
4. Stamets (guest lecturer)
5. Cronenberg
6. Rillak
7. Adira
8. Saru
9. Culber
10. Reno
The cadets will find a sleeper ship with cryogenically preserved Ash Tyler floating around in space.
 
Hell, they put Dr. Gillian Taylor on a Starfleet science vessel as a civilian advisor as soon as she arrrived in 2286 and her scientific knowledge about cetacean life ended in 1986. Starfleet has a history of putting transplantees from centuries in the past into jobs of responsibility as soon as they show up.
Unless your name is "Scotty". ;)
It's silly that these characters from 1000 years ago should be the teachers to 32nd Century cadets...

If anything Burnham, Tilly and the rest should be the ones being re-educated.

It would be like pulling an inventor from the 1100s to teach a course on modern day programming and software development..
They want to instill that "old time religion Starfleet" into the cadets. Who better than someone from Starfleet's Golden Age?
As mentioned the entire crew was re-educated. They're up to date and ready to educate.
Is it? Because society should have changed quite drastically in 1000 years.

A lot of the tactics and perspectives of leaders and explorers from even 100 years ago wouldn't work today, and are even considered offensive by some groups.
Uh, have you met "Star Trek"? It never changes. No matter what the Century it's pretty much the same. It's about commenting on current society through the lens of Science Fiction. It's not gonna create a "future" where that can't happen.
 
It's silly that these characters from 1000 years ago should be the teachers to 32nd Century cadets...

If anything Burnham, Tilly and the rest should be the ones being re-educated.

It would be like pulling an inventor from the 1100s to teach a course on modern day programming and software development..
The needs of the story outweigh the needs of verisimilitude. Star Trek—since 1966.
 
The needs of the story outweigh the needs of verisimilitude. Star Trek—since 1966.

And we have a winner.

Amidst all the silly excuses you people came up with to explain this, this here makes the most sense.


Though, it is questionable to base the whole premise of these series around such a flawed concept.... assuming of course this involves Discovery characters.

It may not, and be a clean break from what has come before.
 
And we have a winner.

Amidst all the silly excuses you people came up with to explain this, this here makes the most sense.


Though, it is questionable to base the whole premise of these series around such a flawed concept.... assuming of course this involves Discovery characters.

It may not, and be a clean break from what has come before.
Where is the flaw, again? What we know.
  • It's set at Starfleet Academy
  • It's set in the 32nd Century
  • It may or may not involve characters from DISCO.
 
It's silly that these characters from 1000 years ago should be the teachers to 32nd Century cadets...

If anything Burnham, Tilly and the rest should be the ones being re-educated.

It would be like pulling an inventor from the 1100s to teach a course on modern day programming and software development..
I dropped DISCOVERY at the end of its second season... for me, it fell off the deep end after the Talos IV episode. Earlier this year I tried giving the third season a watch, but the impossible to suspend belief way they portrayed the 32nd century foreclosed my even being able to "hate watch" -- it's so far removed from pre-existing Star Trek continuity it might as well be ANDROMEDA. So for me, this SFA series is like doubling down on quicksand, but with a lower budget. I'd like to think something good could come of it, but likely it'll prove to be far too "current day" and not relatively timeless. It might end up just targeting the core DISCOVERY fanbase, but with a right sized budget.

Honestly, the series the legacy/continuity subset of fans really have to fear is SNW. The tone / continuity is all off, but it appeals to normies the way the Abramsverse did. Why try keeping up on 50+ years of continuity and follow up on a plethora of already established lore when you can just re-reboot TOS?
 
Honestly, the series the legacy/continuity subset of fans really have to fear is SNW. The tone / continuity is all off, but it appeals to normies the way the Abramsverse did. Why try keeping up on 50+ years of continuity and follow up on a plethora of already established lore when you can just re-reboot TOS?
Most fans of all stripes seem to like SNW. Even a few of the minutiae militia have been positive.
I like the tone of SNW. It's like that other show...what's is called? Oh yeah, Star Trek. Continuity seems to work as well. Yeah they aren't sticking with stupidity like "No female captains", "women on the bridge" or milk toast Chapel, but that's a good thing.
 
I have a list of issues with DSC as long as a Godfather movie and if the worst thing I can say about this concept is: "I just don't want to see it turn into a Star Trek 90210" then I think we'll all be okay with the show being developed.

Agreed. That's really the one thing that would make me turn off that show entirely. And while the teen drama is something a bunch of people enjoy, I'm certainly not one of them.

Like I said, all I can do is wait and see.
 
Honestly, the series the legacy/continuity subset of fans really have to fear is SNW. The tone / continuity is all off, but it appeals to normies the way the Abramsverse did. Why try keeping up on 50+ years of continuity and follow up on a plethora of already established lore when you can just re-reboot TOS?
Because the producers fear the fan base.
 
Most fans of all stripes seem to like SNW. Even a few of the minutiae militia have been positive.
I like the tone of SNW. It's like that other show...what's is called? Oh yeah, Star Trek. Continuity seems to work as well. Yeah they aren't sticking with stupidity like "No female captains", "women on the bridge" or milk toast Chapel, but that's a good thing.
I don't find the SNW crew to be believable as professionals, again the evil verisimilitude. Continuity? I guess that's in the eye of the beholder... but why would the ship be refitted to be small and less technologically advanced after the Spock/Number One short, then refitted to be oversized again after "The Cage", then shrunk down afterwards? Lester in "Turnabout Intruder" is an unreliable narrator. Women on the bridge is effectively a deleted scene and doesn't feature in "The Menagerie". Chapel though really should be more in keeping with the TOS character, if not, just create a new one.

Because the producers fear the fan base.
They should really just go all in and treat SNW like a full reboot, instead of this weird half measure. With all the time travel that took place after DISCOVERY season 2, SFA will effectively already be one.

But at the end of the day, if they want to make different Star Trek for different segments of the fanbase, they need Legacy in here too.
 
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