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News Starfleet Academy Coming to P+

What were we talking about here? The Academy show, right?

There's roughly a 100% chance the uniforms will change.

Anyhow, here's my power rankings of Discovery regulars likely to appear:

1. SMG (No brainer, guest)
2. Tilly
3. Vance
4. Stamets (guest lecturer)
5. Cronenberg
6. Rillak
7. Adira
8. Saru
9. Culber
10. Reno
 
It's silly that these characters from 1000 years ago should be the teachers to 32nd Century cadets...

If anything Burnham, Tilly and the rest should be the ones being re-educated.

It would be like pulling an inventor from the 1100s to teach a course on modern day programming and software development..
 
Hell, they put Dr. Gillian Taylor on a Starfleet science vessel as a civilian advisor as soon as she arrrived in 2286 and her scientific knowledge about cetacean life ended in 1986. Starfleet has a history of putting transplantees from centuries in the past into jobs of responsibility as soon as they show up.
 
Hell, they put Dr. Gillian Taylor on a Starfleet science vessel as a civilian advisor as soon as she arrrived in 2286 and her scientific knowledge about cetacean life ended in 1986. Starfleet has a history of putting transplantees from centuries in the past into jobs of responsibility as soon as they show up.
They implied the whale disappeared. I wondered what Gillian did after that?
 
It's silly that these characters from 1000 years ago should be the teachers to 32nd Century cadets...

If anything Burnham, Tilly and the rest should be the ones being re-educated.
They were re-trained, and they've had years of experience in the 32nd century running one of Starfleet's most important vessels. They've also got experience doing space exploration and science missions that 32nd century officers wouldn't have, and they're the only people in Starfleet who went to the academy and have first hand knowledge of how it used to run.

This is science fiction and fantasy though, so common sense and logic isn't applicable here.
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Didn't the Enterprise uniform have some minor adjustments, between color tone and a couple adjustments?The TNG unform change was a bit subtle as well. Not everyone would have noticed the stripe on the black shoulders in early TNG and disappearing later.





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If there was a tonevand color change for the ENT uniforms, I didn't see it.

As for TNG, it wssn't just the stripe on the shoulders. It went from a single piece, collarless unitard (only way I can think if to describe it) to a two piece, collared uniform. (Pants with removeable jacket, shirt underneath.) That's definitely more than a subtle change, which was done in part because the season 1-2 uniforms were uncomfortable for many of the actors.
 
Ok.

Unless they're training on leadership, diplomacy, and management of a crew. In which case yes they are qualified.

Is it? Because society should have changed quite drastically in 1000 years.

A lot of the tactics and perspectives of leaders and explorers from even 100 years ago wouldn't work today, and are even considered offensive by some groups.
 
It's silly that these characters from 1000 years ago should be the teachers to 32nd Century cadets...

If anything Burnham, Tilly and the rest should be the ones being re-educated.

It would be like pulling an inventor from the 1100s to teach a course on modern day programming and software development..
At this point Starfleet is trying to go out and be Starfleet again after a century of stagnation and just trying to maintain what structure survived the Burn. Having people from Starfleet's golden era there to inspire the next generation and teach them how to do that as well as adapt to any situation (including jumping nearly a millennium into the future) would be a valuable resource. These aren't random people, they're Starfleet officers who have already been able to adjust to the future tech and thrive.
 
Is it? Because society should have changed quite drastically in 1000 years.

A lot of the tactics and perspectives of leaders and explorers from even 100 years ago wouldn't work today, and are even considered offensive by some groups.
Sure it is. Some things are considered offensive, and yet many leadership conferences I attend and principles that are taught are based off of old military leaders, or Marcus Aurelius, or other ancient wisdom.

Starfleet is shown to be a very old institution, with its traditions, and some aspects of leadership, sacrifice and duty would still be relevant.

"Any officer can get by on his sergeants. To be a sergeant you have to know your stuff. I'd rather be an outstanding sergeant than just another officer."
 
If the crew that prevented the collapse of the mycelium network in the multiverse, ended the Klingon War, saved all life in the galaxy from Control, defeated the Emerald Chain, helped the Federation recover from the Burn, and ended the threat of the DMA through science and diplomacy aren't qualified enough to teach cadets, then I dunno maybe there's a teaching course they could take?
 
As for TNG, it wssn't just the stripe on the shoulders. It went from a single piece, collarless unitard (only way I can think if to describe it) to a two piece, collared uniform. (Pants with removeable jacket, shirt underneath.) That's definitely more than a subtle change, which was done in part because the season 1-2 uniforms were uncomfortable for many of the actors.

I bet not everyone noticed, which why I called it subtle.

It might be obvious to you, but I've been astonished with people not noticing things I thought was utterly obvious and/or "right in front of your face".
 
It's silly that these characters from 1000 years ago should be the teachers to 32nd Century cadets...

If anything Burnham, Tilly and the rest should be the ones being re-educated.

It would be like pulling an inventor from the 1100s to teach a course on modern day programming and software development..
It's taken modern scientists and engineers until.. oh.. last year to learn how to successfully recreate ROMAN concrete.
 
I'd think the first folks to colonize and map their new world would have greatly benefited from Lewis and Clark if they showed up and taught them their skills and knowledge.
 
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