Weird I am watching it now on Crave and I did not have a skip recap option, I had to fast forward through them.
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x07 - "Dominion"
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Weird I am watching it now on Crave and I did not have a skip recap option, I had to fast forward through them.
I was able to skip it here in Canada on Crave.
Nope. The child wasn't born yet when DS9 went off the air.
I quoted where the posts about the episode having dropped early in some regions last night began...a page and four hours before the image was posted. You're saying that you didn't skip those posts, so you would have known that the episode had in fact been released and some here had already seen it.
If you don't want spoilers before you've seen the episode, don't come in the discussion thread before you've seen the episode. Pre-release chatter is an optional risk.
I noticed the ears too. My thought was "Well, human ears keep growing all our lives, so maybe Vulcan's do too. T'Pau probably should have looked like a floppy eared hound, or a rabbit. "
One thing that stuck out at me...no Vulcan would go to Planet X after the anti-Kolinahr demonstrations there. Who but Vulcans would be so invested in Kolinahr to demonstrate against it? The only thing that would make a lick of sense would be maybe generally anti-Surak Romulan refugees.
This would be quite a retcon!
The only thing I can think is that it's Syboks faction persisting after his death
In the real world we have protests about events happening in other countries. It wouldn't surprise me if a bunch of people, already feeling that Surak's way is emotionally unhealthy and repressive, basically viewed Kohlinar as a barbaric telepathic ritual that can permanently remove any emotion from a person indoctrinated all their life in what they view as a cult.
There may be Vulcans who live normal lives without the severe emotional repression in the 25th century, telling horror stories of forced emotional repression etc. who are living off-Vulcan, and these protesters are rallying around them.
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Amanda Plummer does a fine job chewing the scenery, and there's plenty of action, and the dramatic beats are frequent, but I really disliked much of this episode. There's a kernel of good messaging underneath somewhere, but it's drowned out by everything else, especially the slipshod storyline, IMO.
This one feels more like a mess the more I think about it.
I find it very hard to believe that DS9's female changeling would not be aware of the 10 held in confinement and thus unaccounted for in the Great Link. Were they one of the infants sent out like Odo and thus never missed? But then they wouldn't have any particular allegiance to the Dominion, so that seems unlikely. Did Starfleet tell the Dominion that they were killed? That seems the most likely answer but there should have been some record of it somewhere I would think. Female Changeling seemed so hell bent on getting Odo back but didn't seem to care about these 10 missing changelings apparently.
Read what I said. I said I didn't ACTIVELY skip posts. I clicked the thread and when it opened, it opened directly to the photo in question. I didn't have a chance to purposefully skip any posts that would have informed me that the episode had dropped. I literally clicked the thread and instantly got a screen full of spoiler. A simple spoiler tag would have easily avoided that.
Lol. What you're not getting is that as far as I knew, NOBODY had seen the episode. Why would I expect screenshots of an episode that AFAIK hadn't aired yet? You're arguing as if the episode had been online for hours, when in reality it was put up incredibly early, to the surprise of many. All I'm asking is for people to wait for the normal time the episodes are expected to be online before posting unavoidable spoilers, or at the very least put them behind a spoiler tag. For 6 episodes before this I have come into these threads to check out pre-episode discussions and not ONCE have I seen any spoilers I couldn't avoid. Now suddenly there is one, and the key difference is that the episode aired earlier than normal. Not sure what is so hard to understand about holding off with a big reveal like that, but apparently some people just can't help themselves.
Tim Russ tweeted saying he's in two episodes of Picard.
https://twitter.com/timruss2/status/1641467761015783425?t=XbKW0BdTTCS-NmFtdNeQkw&s=19
https://twitter.com/timruss2/status/1641467761015783425?t=XbKW0BdTTCS-NmFtdNeQkw&s=19
I'd suggest not hitting the skip button on the recaps, unless you consider the "previously on" to be its own form of spoilers (here's looking at you STARGATE franchise). Sometimes they have alternate cuts, different music cues...
I’m hoping some clarification of timeframe happens here- when did Vadic escape Daystrom? Before or after the Dominion War ended? It seems they weren’t captive very long. What were they doing in the 30 years since? Worf makes it seem like it was only very recently that the rogue Changelings from the Great Link broke off to join them, as it seems to only have become enough of an issue for Odo to inform him of it basically right before the season starts. So were Vadic and her crew flying around aimlessly for 30 years? Did they start infiltrating the federation during that time?
Vadic: What are the command codes for the Titan?
Shaw: There! Are! Four! Lights!
Changeling 2: What the hell is he talking about?
Vadic (shapeshifts into Locutus): We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.
Shaw: Shaw-12-11-bravo-delta
Vadic:
Shaw: There! Are! Four! Lights!
Changeling 2: What the hell is he talking about?
Vadic (shapeshifts into Locutus): We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.
Shaw: Shaw-12-11-bravo-delta
Vadic:
I'm in the minority here but I actually enjoyed this more on first watch than last week's episode but when I think about it after some things fall apart for me. It does have some big flaws: The jump from Picard saying they could come up with a plan to Vadic appearing was kind've sloppy. I mean I guess we can fill in the holes with our head canon, but it didn't work for me. What was the ship near Titan that was damaged? If it was an old junk yard ship couldn't Vadic verify whether a ship really was lost fighting the Titan? It was just really sloppy.
Where was the rest of the crew when the changelings beamed on board? Why was it only Jack and Sydney attacking them? why didn't they set the forcefields between the changeling shuttle and the rest of the corridor? Why let the changelings run around the ship before setting the forcefields? Oh, for an action scene and suspense.
Other than the plan setup and its logistics I thought everything else was fine, but this episode does lose points for still not revealing why they want Picard's body or what the deal is with Jack (at least one of these would be great to know by now)
Saw some complaints in this thread about Lore being able to access the ship. It wasn't clear to me that Lore was actually physically connected to anything with a wire going to his brain at the time (but maybe I missed it) so I assumed he connected wirelessly and Geordi didn't know Lore could do that.
Vadic said she was a POW (along with 9 other changelings) during the dominion war. I wonder exactly when they were take prisoner, how, and for how long? She said Starfleet intended to use them as spies but unless Starfleet could control their minds it seems like a really dumb idea and doesn't really make sense to me. Why would any founder ever become a spy for starfleet?
Where was the rest of the crew when the changelings beamed on board? Why was it only Jack and Sydney attacking them? why didn't they set the forcefields between the changeling shuttle and the rest of the corridor? Why let the changelings run around the ship before setting the forcefields? Oh, for an action scene and suspense.
Other than the plan setup and its logistics I thought everything else was fine, but this episode does lose points for still not revealing why they want Picard's body or what the deal is with Jack (at least one of these would be great to know by now)
Saw some complaints in this thread about Lore being able to access the ship. It wasn't clear to me that Lore was actually physically connected to anything with a wire going to his brain at the time (but maybe I missed it) so I assumed he connected wirelessly and Geordi didn't know Lore could do that.
Vadic said she was a POW (along with 9 other changelings) during the dominion war. I wonder exactly when they were take prisoner, how, and for how long? She said Starfleet intended to use them as spies but unless Starfleet could control their minds it seems like a really dumb idea and doesn't really make sense to me. Why would any founder ever become a spy for starfleet?
The entire thread had a spoiler tag when it went up Tuesday night.
The entire thread from end to end should have been expected to be spoiler territory. Your reasoning doesn't make a damn bit of sense and comes off both as petulant but also dishonest.
Yea, more information about this would be important IMO but I don't think we are going to get it.
