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Spoilers Star Trek: Prodigy 1x20 - "Supernova, Part 2"

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Yes, because The Phantom Menace came out in 1999, and Lucas decided to make it a kid’s movie because he cared more about selling Jar Jar Binks toys than making an actual good film.

I understand the whole pod racing sequence was created just for the licensing possibilities too. But that N64 game was one of my all-time favourites as a kid, so can't complain too much. Yippee!, etc.

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This is probably because of UT's. So, there may not be huge emphasis on learning new languages as a result because within UFP, UT's don't really malfunction.
But I was surprised at least that non human species that serve in SF don't know/understand what is considered Standard (aka, English). One would think this would be a sort of requirement to be able to communicate with each other in case UT's go down (as its more likely to happen during an attack and technology can malfunction as a result).

Heck, if you're part of UFP in general, I think everyone would at least be encouraged to learn how to speak and write Standard at the very least.
The very word 'standard' implies that this is a common language in UFP... and as such one would hope/expect that it would be kinda mandatory to learn it once you become part of UFP.
I see the reasoning, but what many people don't seem to realise is that this would mean that Earth is by far the dominant member of the Federation, if it can force an obligation on others to learn one of Earth's languages while the same isn't true in reverse (i.e., Earth officers are not required to learn one of the languages of Vulcans, Tellarites or Andorians). OK, we could say that Starfleet really is an Earth institution (it started out as one and is still largely human-staffed) and so the requirement is not unreasonable, but OTOH it seems to be responsible for so much (including the bulk of the defense) within the entire Federation that entry of non-Earthers should not be impeded. And learning a language can be a real barrier, especially when languages within the Federation in general and Earth in particular would be so diverse that the UT would be doing overtime (and one would rarely hear conversations that were entirely native "standard"). Languages are learned by using them, hearing, speaking, writing. And that needs to be maintained or the knowledge slips (but not with Vau N'akat, I suppose).

Standard - I think the writers call it that way because that way, it can be whatever language the show is dubbed in (in the Spanish version, Fed Standard would be Spanish). But in practice, in-universe, "standard" may be limited to English being the official language things are documented in, the default setting of the consoles, etc, without a real requirement for general officers to learn it (with the possible exception of certain specialised or official functions - maybe it is expected of a Fleet Admiral, for example).

For Gwyn, being told about Solum was something of an important experience... it was something that she always wanted to know for one and it was deeply impactful.
Plus, we tend to memorize things very clearly when events are associated with emotional responses (good and bad).
So, I don't think it was that strange of Gwyn to recognize those constellations from Solum's holo and be able to determine its general location from that (she knows where to look for it, but doesn't know EXACTLY where it is - it will probably still take her a bit of time to locate Solum's exact location).

Also, she probably looked at stellar maps off screen at one point or another during the second half of the season (after recovering her memories) trying to determine where Solum was in case she needed to go there.
That she could have looked is true, but when her father was dying she specifically said that she didn't know where Solum was. So apparently, she didn't.

I also took a look at the scenes in the holo from S1e10, and I didn't even see any stars visible (maybe when the holo shifted from present day Solum to 50 years later, but that went by very quickly in a chaotic jumble). Gwyn apparently took a small element from that, from memory. And it's not like Soji and the moons of her home, those were prominent elements. Gwyn is looking at some Star clusters without properties that are immediately obvious to set them apart. While simultaneously taking in the main point of the demo (that city on Solum and its surroundings) and discussing/arguing with her father.

It does look interesting, a spiritual successor of the Intrepid-class with quantum slipstream. A vessel like this (whether taken from the game or an original but similar concept) could work as new hero ship, especially since the Dauntless-class has apparently validated the quantum slipstream drive and Starfleet might feel bold enough to not merely copy the Arturis' design in as much aspects as possible.

Which leaves me with the question what the show would do in S2 with the Protostar design, as they showed a brand new one but they may end up not using it. I guess Janeway could still run into the original Protostar on future-Solum, not launched into the anomaly yet. And maybe the Protogies and Chakotay end up escaping in that ship, to go straight to the other plotline (present Solum) with it (leaving Janeway, or merely the other vessel if she is with the others, to catch up later)?

Some surprising news about the original plan for this episode (I suppose when the draft for the S1 finale was first written and discussed among the writers): https://www.cinemablend.com/intervi...-for-season-1s-finale-and-why-it-didnt-happen
So, David Mack convinced them not to end S1 with the Protogies being accepted into Starfleet Academy (which was the first idea). Casually, Kevin Hageman also confirms that a Starfleet Academy show is in the works (but not by them...) and that they want to cross into their waters. He also says that S2 can't just be classroom scenes after such an adventure filled S1 (but surely they would have thought of that before Mack talked them out of it?).

Anyway, the Protogies will have more hills to climb before they actually get into Starfleet Academy, and that will be part of S2 (the hills, that is, not necessarily getting into the Academy). I do get the feeling that if they do, the show may be over.

Speaking of which, still no indication a season 3 is being ordered. Should we worry about that? Animation has a long lead time, so they can't wait forever as some aspects of season 2 (writing) have been finished or are very close to it. Of course, for all we know they may be talking about a possible season 4 already (should they order two seasons at once, for the planning and to keep the costs down), but there is no indication that I know off whether or not the show is doing well for Paramount and Nickolodeon.
 
I’m guessing it’s a Pathfinder class. I know it’s a STO ship but they have been using a lot of them recently.
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PRO isn't beholden to use STO ships like PIC was. That was a budgetary decision that a CGI animated show doesn't have a problem with.
 
Finale was good. I would say they mostly stuck the landing.

interesting decision to go from Holo-Janeway to the real deal for S2.

my main complaint about the series as a whole remains. The episodes are too short and move too fast. Would love to see a full 30-32 minute streaming version of each episode that can be cut down to 24-25 for cable broadcast.
 
Paramount doesn't own the rights to the Vesta design.
doesn’t it? i seem to remember guidelines for the fan productions saying they own pretty much everything you do based on Star Trek. Of course it’s to be demonstrated if it would stand up in court, but any fan artist shying paramount over having their design used in official materials are pretty much guaranteed to face a much worse court case…
 
We know the Dauntless is "much bigger", but then has the Dauntless been repaired by that time?
Probably, there was a month already before the Protogies arrived at the Golden Gate bridge and then more time after that for the tribunal and the discussion between Starfleet and Gwyn. And then more time yet, probably, for the preparation of the mission.

If the Dauntless got repair priority - and it is one of the very fastest ships in Starfleet - it probably could have been repaired in that timeframe (damage seemed largely limited to some outer decks being smashed).

However, I suppose it's more likely Janeway goes on the Voyager-A, or an even larger vessel. And the Dauntless, or sistership, may be bringing Gwyn to Solum. The shared history with Ascencia may help that storyline, if Tysess and Noum remain on board.
 
I understand the whole pod racing sequence was created just for the licensing possibilities too. But that N64 game was one of my all-time favourites as a kid, so can't complain too much. Yippee!, etc.

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I liked that game a lot, I had the mac version.

PRO isn't beholden to use STO ships like PIC was. That was a budgetary decision that a CGI animated show doesn't have a problem with.
how so? They’re still digital assets…


Speaking of assets, let’s remember that Gwynn had access to the solum simulation for the whole second half of the season, however long that was, so if she wanted to study it more in detail she could have.
 
doesn’t it? i seem to remember guidelines for the fan productions saying they own pretty much everything you do based on Star Trek. Of course it’s to be demonstrated if it would stand up in court, but any fan artist shying paramount over having their design used in official materials are pretty much guaranteed to face a much worse court case…

If someone makes a fan design, CBS doesn't own that design. But I suppose they could technically use that design without the creator's permission because the design was clearly based on Star Trek's IP.

how so? They’re still digital assets…

I mean that PRO can come up with their own ship designs rather than using STO's assets as a cost-saving measure. Being an animated show rather than live-action affords them that luxury.
 
Speaking of assets, let’s remember that Gwynn had access to the solum simulation for the whole second half of the season, however long that was, so if she wanted to study it more in detail she could have.
That's possible. However, still at the very least one month before she could search for this cluster in the large stellar cartography room at Starfleet, without access to the original recording.
 
Probably, there was a month already before the Protogies arrived at the Golden Gate bridge and then more time after that for the tribunal and the discussion between Starfleet and Gwyn. And then more time yet, probably, for the preparation of the mission.

If the Dauntless got repair priority - and it is one of the very fastest ships in Starfleet - it probably could have been repaired in that timeframe (damage seemed largely limited to some outer decks being smashed).

However, I suppose it's more likely Janeway goes on the Voyager-A, or an even larger vessel. And the Dauntless, or sistership, may be bringing Gwyn to Solum. The shared history with Ascencia may help that storyline, if Tysess and Noum remain on board.
If not a Protostar class, and if they don't go with an entirely different class ship, the Voyager-A might be a Dauntless class. It would be equally fitting as either one of those classes if it isn't a class name itself.

If that Protostar in the hangar was unfinished, would it have shuttles yet?
 
doesn’t it? i seem to remember guidelines for the fan productions saying they own pretty much everything you do based on Star Trek. Of course it’s to be demonstrated if it would stand up in court, but any fan artist shying paramount over having their design used in official materials are pretty much guaranteed to face a much worse court case…
When the Vesta was added to STO, Cryptic and CBS had to negotiate a licence with Radmaker to use and sell the design in the game's store. You can't 3D print the original Vesta design in STO either because of that. The EP of Cryptic at the time said it was a pain in the ass to get.

I'm guessing a similar licence was negotiated with Eaglemoss.
 
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If not a Protostar class, and if they don't go with an entirely different class ship, the Voyager-A might be a Dauntless class. It would be equally fitting as either one of those classes if it isn't a class name itself.

If that Protostar in the hangar was unfinished, would it have shuttles yet?
True, the Voyager-A could well be a Dauntless. In that case, the ship Gwyn is on could be something else (but fast - allthough a Prometheus apparently can do it, without proto- and other slipstreamdrives but probably through transwarp lanes) to visually distinguish it.

The Protostar doesn't seem large enough to have 2 permanent shuttles like that. And it probably wouldn't have shuttles yet, especially given they may print them when needed.
 
If not a Protostar class, and if they don't go with an entirely different class ship, the Voyager-A might be a Dauntless class. It would be equally fitting as either one of those classes if it isn't a class name itself.

I doubt it will be a Dauntless class. If that were the case, they would have showed the ship at the end of the episode rather than keep it a surprise.
 
The fact that the toys didn't get in the stores by Christmas is a worry to me... it indicates that Prodigy's marketing team may not be as capable as their writing team.
It may indicate that Prodigy is a rather low priority for whatever department at Paramount/CBS/Nickolodeon is responsible for the merchandising. That revenue may have to be shared between the parties involved could be a limiting factor.

I doubt it will be a Dauntless class. If that were the case, they would have showed the ship at the end of the episode rather than keep it a surprise.
I also tend to think it's more likely to be an as-of-yet unseen ship/design. If they go with a Dauntless class for either of the two ships they need, it's more likely to be the Dauntless itself and to include the characters that were introduced on it (minus Janeway and Ascencia).
 
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