Spoilers The Strange New Worlds Starship Thread™

[137th Gebirg]

Seeing the model cleanly rendered from STO really makes it look almost like a late-contemporary of the NX class. Particularly those big bussard retaining clamps and the location of the inner blue warp coil glow. I think this ship is a LOT older than any of the Connies.

 

[Tuskin38]

Seeing the model cleanly rendered from STO really makes it look almost like a late-contemporary of the NX class. Particularly those big bussard retaining clamps and the location of the inner blue warp coil glow. I think this ship is a LOT older than any of the Connies.

The Connie has those too. The Farragut is just using modified Connie nacelles.

Eaves took inspiration from the NX-01, as well as ships after the TOS Design to make an inbetween.

 

[shapeshifter]

Oh good, some more views.

So if I understand correctly, (I am usually more about aesthetics than function but,) these pylons are strictly points to connect the nacelles, no warp conduits thread through them as this engine design features mixing chambers within the nacelles themselves. Correct?

If not, how do the engines connect the mixers, and where are they?

Aesthetically, I wished they curved out, pushing the engines further apart, as their current look, to me, comes across as narrow eyed.

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[Tuskin38]

no warp conduits thread through them as this engine design features mixing chambers within the nacelles themselves. Correct?

I don't see why there wouldn't be conduits, the ship still has s secondary hull, just embedded into the bottom of the saucer.

 

[shapeshifter]

I'd love to see a cutaway of how that works.

Where is the secondary hull embedded, above the pylons, (one above each?) or in the middle with conduits threading out to them like outstretched arms?

Either way just seems like an engineering stretch. And why, what gain is there? Just seems like love for the Cerritos is now driving weird designs in every era. Oh well.

 

[fireproof78]

I mean, the pylons remind me of the Oberth in a way. I think weird designs have been going on for a bit now.

 

[Tuskin38]

The Farrgut seems to be based off the DSC Connie not the SNW Connie. Doesn't have any of the new saucer windows, and no cargo bay on the bottom of the secondary hull.

Either way just seems like an engineering stretch. And why, what gain is there? Just seems like love for the Cerritos is now driving weird designs in every era. Oh well.

Why have people suddenly forgotten that the Miranda exists??

Where is the secondary hull embedded,

The distance between the pylons on the Farragut and this hull appear to be closed than the Galaxy Class's pylons and its engineering.

 

[shapeshifter]

Why have people suddenly forgotten that the Miranda exists??

The roll bar and thickened aft saucer give plausibility missing here, imo.

The distance between the pylons on the Farragut and this hull appear to be closed than the Galaxy Class's pylons and its engineering.

No, not the distance between nacelles and hulls. IIRC that has never mattered to me, but I could be forgetting something...

I mean the distance between the nacelles - bussard to bussard, wise. The closer they come to each other the less I like them. MMV

 

[Markonian]

It really looks like a goofy, 2250s-era California class predecessor.
I dig it.

 

[HotRod]

I'd love to see a cutaway of how that works.

Where is the secondary hull embedded, above the pylons, (one above each?) or in the middle with conduits threading out to them like outstretched arms?

Either way just seems like an engineering stretch. And why, what gain is there? Just seems like love for the Cerritos is now driving weird designs in every era. Oh well.

I fail to understand the problem you're having with the design? I mean, going by TNG terms, Power Transfer Conduits mean the Warp Core doesn't need to be anywhere close to the the Nacelles. Hell, the distance from core to Nacelles is probably a lesser distance in the Farragut then it is in a Constitution.

Unless I'm misunderstanding your issue with the Farragut.

 

[shapeshifter]

It is mostly about how it appears, the close set nacelles irks me.

I usually don't fret over how it functions because it is imaginary but this one is tweaking my sensibilities over where the power would be generated and how the power would be delivered to the nacelles.

I had the same thoughts about the Cerritos but was easily dismissed with it being animated.

Now it's popularity has caused this weird design, IMO, to creep into SNWs. I am irked about that. It seems designs making sense are dying out. MMV

<shakes cane and yells get off the lawn> lol

This is better. https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/the...cussion-goes-here.304648/page-7#post-14282292

 

[fireproof78]

It is mostly about how it appears, the close set nacelles irks me.

I usually don't fret over how it functions because it is imaginary but this one is tweaking my sensibilities over where the power would be generated and how the power would be delivered to the nacelles.

I had the same thoughts about the Cerritos but was easily dismissed with it being animated.

Now it's popularity has caused this weird design, IMO, to creep into SNWs. I am irked about that. It seems designs making sense are dying out. MMV

<shakes cane and yells get off the lawn> lol

Unless, you go with more of a TOS design sensibility and have all the warp ability generated in the nacelle, meaning any power is just like standard power lines, and not a full TNG or TMP style core

 

[shapeshifter]

I just found and edit added this before your post.

Better: https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/the...cussion-goes-here.304648/page-7#post-14282292

 

[Tuskin38]

Now it's popularity has caused this weird design, IMO, to creep into SNWs.

But they're nothing a like really, and I really doubt the designer was thinking of the Cerritos, they were more likely thinking of the Miranda. Or maybe neither.

 

[Markonian]

Place another hull on struts between the nacelles and it’s basically a SNW-era Cerritos.

 

[Tuskin38]

Place a hull between the nacelles on the Miranda and you'll get a TMP era California.

Place another hull on struts between the nacelles and it’s basically a SNW-era Cerritos.

That really doesn't work because the California class doesn't have a engineering section in the saucer, that presumably the Farragut has.

It would be more like the NX Refit at that point.

 

[shapeshifter]

Ironically, that would make more sense imo. Still, the narrowed-eyed nacelles though.

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[Tuskin38]

How do they look cross eyed? They're pointing straight out.

It looks like a Miranda with curved pylons.

 

[shapeshifter]

Please, for the last time... I cannot be any clearer, I don't like that look.

 

[Tuskin38]

And I'm not trying to convince you to like it, I'm talking about how you described it.