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When did the Janeway hatred truly start to coalesce?

She Broke the Prime Directive in Every Episode, but we were not paying attention.

CHAKOTAY: There's nothing inherently violent about holodeck technology. It's what the Hirogen did with it that got them killed.
JANEWAY: How many times have we shared replicators to help people feed and clothe themselves?
CHAKOTAY: Trading technology is part of our life in the Delta Quadrant.
TUVOK:: It has been necessary for our survival.
JANEWAY: Maybe we should have been a little more careful about what we traded and who we traded with. Replicators make weapons just as easily as they do food.

Any time they wanted to buy something from an alien, they traded it for Federation Technology, which if you remember was Seska's original sin.

NEELIX: Forgive me, Captain, but are you sure going after the Nistrim is the wisest course of action after what they've already done to us?
JANEWAY: Let me make something very clear. The Nistrim are in possession of Federation technology. That is an unacceptable situation.
NEELIX: Even though all they've stolen is a small computer component?
JANEWAY: That small component has the potential to cause vast problems in this quadrant. You're our resident expert on the Kazon. What do you think the other sects will do when they realise the Nistrim have transporter capabilities?
NEELIX: They'll try to get it for themselves any way they can. You're right. It could alter the balance of power among the sects.
JANEWAY: Exactly. And it is our duty to do everything we can, no matter how dangerous, to stop that from happening.
 
Lucas is his Gungan.
How wude.

More seriously, though, Janeway's decision regarding Tuvix varies quite a bit. Some support it, and others acknowledge it an a decision with no right answer.

Regarding her aiding the Borg, we can't say for sure whether her actions were right or wrong in the long run, because we don't know how far Species 8472 actually planned to go. If they truly intended to annihilate all life in the galaxy, and had the means to do so, then Janeway's actions don't seem so bad. Though I suppose technically, yes, it was a PD violation.
 
There are also those who consider her resolution to be unquestionably beyond the pale.

I know that. I spent quite awhile taking a hard look at that decision: why Janeway chose as she did, what might have motivated her to make the opposite choice, and how she would have felt afterward.

A lot of the issue with Janeway is her inconsistency... no matter what your overall opinions on various Trek-related matters, she probably did something you don't like at some point.
 
I suspect that nearly all of the leads in the Trek shows have broken the Prime Directive, one way or the other. They rarely get called out for it, with the exception of Janeway.

Did Sisko have a First contact episode?

Other than Past Tense, but that was the temporal displacement Policy, which reads pretty much identical to the prime Directive.
 
"CAPTIVE PURSUIT", "BATTLE LINES", "SANCTUARY", and "THE SEARCH" were also first contact scenarios.

In "CAPTIVE PURSUIT", he dressed down O'Brien for interfering for Tosk, but Sisko also did his part because he didn't agree with his fate.

"BATTLE LINES"... they crashed and left as soon as they could. While he did initially offer passage off the moon, it proved it couldn't be. So no violation.

"SANCTUARY" was a first contact, but I don't see any violations there.

"THE SEARCH"... he was under orders to find the Founders.
 
"Battle Lines", "Sanctuary", "The Search", there are probably others...

Sanctuary. Refugees. Sisko co-ordinated with the Bajoran Government. The weight was not on his shoulders.

The Search. Post warp culture who had declared war on Bajor and the Federation by Destroying the USS Odyssey and culling the colony of New Bajor. Not a Prime Directive issue after the Federation and Bajor had ratified the dclaration. Although a state of War didn't exist until much later and it came out of Sisko's mouth.

Battle Lines. They didn't listen to or care for the strangers from the Federation and Bajor. The team from DS9 did get sucked into a war without understanding the players or asking permission from Earth or Bajor, but was it a planetary war of billions or a brawl between a few dozen immortals?
 
Proof that you never let Quark handle a first contact mission.

Unless the first contact is with a high-yield explosive.

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In the cases of "BLINK OF AN EYE" and "DEMON", I wouldn't call those deliberate violations. In the former, they were trapped in the unusual gravity of that world. In the latter, the silver blood was not even shown as existing until most of the episode was done.

Some Prime Directive violations...

Arguably, her actions in "CARETAKER" are a Prime Directive violation, as she destroyed the array because the self destruct was damaged in the battle. But if the battle never happened, the Caretaker's self destruct would have worked and the array would have been destroyed, so same result.

Warping through the territory without permission, and after being warned, in "THE SWARM" would constitute a violation. Maybe not of the Prime Directive, but certainly any number of Starfleet regulstions, as Tuvok pointed out.

Getting involved in the Species 8472 war with the Borg... Prime Directive violation in the worst way, because it allowed the Borg to continue to kill and assimilate billions across thousands of worlds.

Giving the Hirogen hologram technology. That's a societal change on a fundamental level, for good or bad. We clearly saw some bad results years later. (Rather unbelievably so, since that's about 35,000 light years away.)

Letting the Vaadwaur loose.


I'm sure there are at least a couple others, but that's off the top of my head.


As I can recall, most or probably ALL of the Trek captains have broken the Prime Directive in more ways than one. I never understood why Janeway was singled out for this act. Also, it was Seven-of-Nine who had allowed the Vaadwaur loose without Janeway's knowledge or permission.

It's odd. A few months ago, a good number of fans were complaining that Janeway had failed as a character, because she was a Mary Sue. Now I see that many fans are back at criticizing her decisions and using them as examples of why she was a bad captain. It seemed as if some fans cannot make up their minds on why they dislike her. Which leads me to . . . again . . . speculate that Janeway's gender and position as starship captain has a lot to do with the dislike toward her.
 
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