So, Future Pike basically played an Endgame Janeway card, right?
Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x10 - "A Quality of Mercy"
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Ok, so he was the fighting-est captain who then got shown a horrible future, and is wrestling with the cost of life and death. Sounds like he is still figuring this stuff out, and being extremely reflective, which is demonstrated to be his personality. So, maybe yes to the personality comment.
I kinda got a vibe that Pike and La'An might be together in the alternate timeline given her reactions. Although Pike having someone probably means that person is going to die before his accident and he return to Talos IV.
Yea. I thought that was a nice additional 'motivator' from this storyline. Spock puts together and goes on believing that Pike takes the 'bullet' for him because if Pike avoids it then Spock would suffer.
nah, it just further proves that SNW and Disco exist in an alternate universe or different quantum reality. Whatever terminology you prefer. Especially since they have tweaked the look of the monster maroons.
I guess we're similar in that I have a religious upbringing, but in Buddhism.
But I don't have nearly as many traumatic repercussions into my adult life like you seem to have.
I may not be as religious as my parents, but I co-exist with Buddhism to some degree & have tolerance for all other religions in general.
My sympathies.
I should note my wife was raised in a cult and we spent years working through her issues. For me, though, the beliefs ones holds should be questioned so you can find out if they work for you and the world as unquestioned faith is a weak faith. I also believe that some things are good and should be passed on.
But yes, I grew up in an area full of pretty awful churches and secular ideologies (see rural Northern Kentucky). Its awful seeing children taught racism, fear, and fanaticism. It's also good teaching them to stand up against it and the responsibility of parents to protect them until they are capable of making choices for themselves.
Same. The only concern I have is with attachments. But, I started a thread on this.
I have no issues with religions or religious upbringings. I have navigated that world very well and encourage others to question what they are brought up with to find what works for them. Some might consider that heretical, but given how I interact with religious people on a daily basis it seems to go over well.
The crimp in the "M'Benga is demoted for something we saw in season 1" theories is we've seen now that, all things being equal, he'd have stayed as chief surgeon on the Enterprise indefinitely.
cut scene from Wrath of Khan.
Scotty: Capt'n the Federation is done for! Chris Pike's secret logs said Spock was needed for the survival of the Federation and the galaxy! He's died before he's done any of those things!!!!
Kirk: Well what do you want me to do?
Scotty: Bury him on Genesis, at least maybe the life growing chemicals on that planet might do something!
Scotty: Capt'n the Federation is done for! Chris Pike's secret logs said Spock was needed for the survival of the Federation and the galaxy! He's died before he's done any of those things!!!!
Kirk: Well what do you want me to do?
Scotty: Bury him on Genesis, at least maybe the life growing chemicals on that planet might do something!
A great philosopher once said that if you believe something is true, questioning and testing it should strengthen your faith.
Honestly, I feel like the Jedi parotted some very advanced lines about serenity and enlightenment to Anakin who completely misread them. But Anakin totally DOES get what they were going for with his "we're encouraged to love" speech in AOTC.
He just, like many people, chooses to ignore it because theory versus fact and utterly bones the galaxy in the process.
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Being "the fighting-est captain in the fleet" doesn't mean he wants to start a fight/war whenever possible.
It just means that when he has to fight, he's willing to see it through to the end and win when possible.
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This episode was terrific! What a way to end the season! Can't wait to see season two!
...where is it?!
...where is it?!
Still being made.
We’ve had nearly a year of constant new Trek. I’m going through withdrawals.
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A fucking 11!!! (Although 10 is all I can choose on the poll 
) I would have given it a 12 had they shown Mr. Scott and not just had his voice via the intercom.
What a GREAT way to do a different and 21st century production take on the TOS S1 classic Balance Of Terror; and even throw in costuming nods to the TOS feature film era while they're at it; and still keep everything in Prime continuity/canon.
I LOVED it front to back; and in the end, I love that they know have Pike accepting his fate for a GOOD reason, and he's just going to go with the flow and live his life to the fullest way he knows how until that day.
(And honestly if anything this episode shows the difference between Kirk and a Picard <--- And no that's not a typo because yes, Pike is actually more like a 23c Picard, and probably how Picard would have run a ship had he himself been a Captain in the 23rd century era.)
LOVE that this episode shows that out and out diplomacy isn't always a good thing. Diplomacy needs to be tailored to the enemy you're negotiating with -- and that's one inherent flaw Starfleet has in that they often seem to have the idea that ALWAYS talking will solve any situation; but yeah sometimes 'talk' has to be backed up with hard resolves - and sometimes that resolve needs to be demonstrated.)
And I also LOVE they are in fact addressing the Una genetic engineering situation as well that Pike (and the audience have known since early in the Season).
This also sooooo sets up and puts a real coda on TOS S1 - The Menagerie. I can picture Spock right 'now' (in 2259) setting things in motion with The Talosian Keeper to be sure everything is in place for when the time comes.
This is the way to write an EXCELLECT Star Trek series.
We better damn well get to see 7 (or more) Seasons of Strange New Worlds - They NEED to announce the Season 3 renewal POST HASTE!
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) I would have given it a 12 had they shown Mr. Scott and not just had his voice via the intercom.What a GREAT way to do a different and 21st century production take on the TOS S1 classic Balance Of Terror; and even throw in costuming nods to the TOS feature film era while they're at it; and still keep everything in Prime continuity/canon.
I LOVED it front to back; and in the end, I love that they know have Pike accepting his fate for a GOOD reason, and he's just going to go with the flow and live his life to the fullest way he knows how until that day.
(And honestly if anything this episode shows the difference between Kirk and a Picard <--- And no that's not a typo because yes, Pike is actually more like a 23c Picard, and probably how Picard would have run a ship had he himself been a Captain in the 23rd century era.)
LOVE that this episode shows that out and out diplomacy isn't always a good thing. Diplomacy needs to be tailored to the enemy you're negotiating with -- and that's one inherent flaw Starfleet has in that they often seem to have the idea that ALWAYS talking will solve any situation; but yeah sometimes 'talk' has to be backed up with hard resolves - and sometimes that resolve needs to be demonstrated.)
And I also LOVE they are in fact addressing the Una genetic engineering situation as well that Pike (and the audience have known since early in the Season).
This also sooooo sets up and puts a real coda on TOS S1 - The Menagerie. I can picture Spock right 'now' (in 2259) setting things in motion with The Talosian Keeper to be sure everything is in place for when the time comes.
This is the way to write an EXCELLECT Star Trek series.
We better damn well get to see 7 (or more) Seasons of Strange New Worlds - They NEED to announce the Season 3 renewal POST HASTE!
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