Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x09 - "All Those Who Wander"
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If they kill Ortegas we riot.
Game over. It's game over, man! What we gonna do now?!
https://warpfactortrek.com/strange-new-worlds-all-those-who-wander-in-review/
https://warpfactortrek.com/strange-new-worlds-all-those-who-wander-in-review/
…and Una.As the only two mains left with an unknown future, La'an and Ortegas better watch their backs.
Awesome reply! I sometimes wonder where the Christine haters come from. Are they Uhura/Spock "shippers" from the Kelvin timeline? If Uhura had taken Spock's face in her hands that would have been just fine. If Ortegas had hugged him that would have been awesome for them. Only Christine is the sinner. Refurbishing Chapel is long overdue and some "fans" of Star Trek cannot endure it in any form.
Couples with chemistry in Star Trek tend to fizzle out when the relationship is acknowledged and consummated. The Medieval rules of love affirm this. Once a love is acknowledged publicly it starts to fade. SOOO the writers should keep the bittersweet attraction going but take it no further UNTIL the last scene of the last episode where Chapel is going back for her PhD and we see her hurrying up the stairs of a resort to meet Spock for the last time........end of scene.I think that Chapel and Spock will *really* hit it off and have a full on affair, but Spock will mind wipe her using an ancient Vulcan memory suppression technique to make her stop loving him and suppress her emotions.. also hiding the incident from T’Pring, this will explain Chapel’s future interactions with Spock. It will be kind of like the scene in Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country where Spock forces himself in to Valeris’s mind to extract information. Spock does not realise though that T’Pring is also cheating on him with Stonn and planning his death… so maybe he would have been better off with Chapel? Chapel could have been the love of his life but circumstance and tradition probably stopped him from developing this true love… he fought against it instead as he wanted to follow tradition and logic. This is *really* tragic if you think about it. I really want to ship Spock and Chapel now but I know it can never work out as the future is written…
Such a suit would be a nonstarter. You can't sue people for doing something similar.
Calm down. It's just a TV show.
All of the episodes were written early on, and filmed way before we got the original trailer. In other words, this was most probably planned from the start. EDIT: Also Horak said he enjoyed the makeup process and confirms that he knew his fate from the start.
That refrain of yours is getting tiresome. Just don't watch it.
I've been thinking about how TV reporters can't seem to keep the reboot/sequel terminology straight. Reboot is flawed computer analogy anyway. We really should say a Reformatted show discards all continuity and begins again clean. A Reboot is a new series that keeps all the continuity of the older show (aka sequel). And a System Update keeps all the continuity but changes how the show looks. SNW is largely the last, with a little disc cleanup thrown in.
The flipside of your argument is that you can't kill minority characters. Wouldn't that be silly?
And here you're implying that minorities shouldn't be criticised or see their arguments challenged.
I like the idea of calling it Reformatted. Too bad we won't be able to get the world at large behind it.
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Well as many people, including the actor have said, Hemmer was set up to die from day one. He's like Lorca and Georgiou from DISCO, not intended to survive. And the character was said to be reoccurring, not main.
I might as well just say this now: I think anyone who thinks SNW will lead into "Where No Man Has Gone Before" as seen is lying to themselves.
We saw "Q & A", which takes place before "The Cage", and the Enterprise still had the DSC/SNW look. In SNW, things never looked like "The Cage" and it'll never look like "Where No Man Has Gone Before".
The Look isn't even the only thing. The way women are depicted. I don't want SNW to lead into TOS as was because anyone without a Y Chromosome will end up taking a backseat.
There are other things too, but those are the two main reasons why I think TOS should only figure into SNW in broad strokes. Trying to force the two series together would be a mistake. A huge mistake.
"Oh, but they showed footage from "The Cage" in the "If Memory Serves" recap from Discovery!" I can picture someone saying that right now. That's called taking Artistic License, because they knew they wanted to make a quirky fun, little recap. And it was. So stop trying to take the fun out of it, by looking at it so literally.
We saw "Q & A", which takes place before "The Cage", and the Enterprise still had the DSC/SNW look. In SNW, things never looked like "The Cage" and it'll never look like "Where No Man Has Gone Before".
The Look isn't even the only thing. The way women are depicted. I don't want SNW to lead into TOS as was because anyone without a Y Chromosome will end up taking a backseat.
There are other things too, but those are the two main reasons why I think TOS should only figure into SNW in broad strokes. Trying to force the two series together would be a mistake. A huge mistake.
"Oh, but they showed footage from "The Cage" in the "If Memory Serves" recap from Discovery!" I can picture someone saying that right now. That's called taking Artistic License, because they knew they wanted to make a quirky fun, little recap. And it was. So stop trying to take the fun out of it, by looking at it so literally.
Well, as I've said, he was in the opening credits, like every main character and unlike every recurring one.
We also saw it in Picard season 1.
From recent articles it seems hemmer is not done yet. We might get flashback or something. But Horak sounds positive he's coming back in some capacity.
Unless it's reinstatement to full cast member it still looks like a demotion. The news that Hemmer was always intended to die doesn't make this whole situation appear any better. It's like the show wanted to showcase their diversity by seemingly having a main cast disabled actor, only to reveal they never intended to accomodate him for the long run.