Alien, Predator, AvP (news)

Of course she has a chance. Schwarzenegger had beaten the Predator with primitive weapons

 

Yeah, Legion has me more interested than I would otherwise be in the movie.

It will be subtitled...in Comanche.

 

Yup. This is the same level of tech that beat the first predator. Guns are a liability against the predator, not an asset. If you use a gun, you're still outclassed by centuries of technological development but you've also given up any possibility of using the hit and run/hide tactics that actually allow people to defeat superior forces because guns are both loud and hot which makes them very easy for the predator to track.

 

It's a little arrogant to think that our contemporary weapons are much more effective against an advanced civilization than weapons from a few centuries ago. It is wits and ingenuity that win the day in these types of movie scenarios. We are on a Trek board and isn't that the way Starfleet crews win the day 99% of the time?

 

Yeah but that’s Arnold.

 

That's a non-argument.

 

It's the same kind of argument he regularly used in the Supergirl threads.

 

You people are no fun.

 

In what way? Supergirl was shown to be stronger than Superman there. Something that would be really useful in the latest Superman and Lois arc.

 

For my money, you don't need an "Arnold like" lead for these movies. You just need a character that has ingenuity. Skill. Resourcefulness.

It's not as though Arnold was even able to stand with the Predator physically anyway. He got his entire ass kicked when they went toe to toe.

 

There is an episode of Secrets of the Dead, S19 E2 Lady Sapiens that's worth a look regarding prehistoric warrior women.

 

This might be the first time humans are encountered…with the Hunter perhaps disarming himself to fight grizzlies.

 

Possibly. If we take the original AvP, they were around during the ancient mesoamerican civilizations. But we don't know for certain (yet) what timeframe this movie takes place in. We all tend to think of native Americans in terms of the 18th and 19th century, but this could theoretically be centuries before that. Maybe even before Two-Bears' ancestor scalped some Conquistador and took his helmet.

If there are horses, that should help narrow down a timeframe as well. IIRC, Europeans brought them to the New World.

 

There are colonists (French trappers) in the movie, so it's minimum 16th/17th century.

 

It's kind of hilarious seeing people argue that it's unrealistic to expect people to stand a chance against Predators without modern weaponry. I mean did folks just sleep through the entirety of the other movies? (Understandable in AvPs case.)
How much good did modern weaponry ever do *anyone* against one of those things? It pretty much always comes down to a knock-down drag-out with rocks and pointy sticks anyway, so if anything the protagonists of this movie are WAY ahead of the curve.

 

What do you mean? This entire website exists to nitpick things.

 

I actually did fall asleep while watching Predators. Or at least I think it was that one, was that the one that came out in 2010? The 2010 one is the one I fell asleep during, anyway.

Granted, I did have some serious sleep issues throughout 2010 in that I'd stay up most of the night and fall asleep at random points during the day.

 

Was that the one with Danny Trejo and Morpheus? I'll be honest I don't even remember how that one ended.

Yeah sure, those idiots couldn't even handle unarmed alien animals that mostly just bite things, and they're supposed to have a snowballs chance on Mustafar against one that's intelligent, armed to the teeth, and invisible?

I mean think about it; we've never actually seen a Predator get into a serious fight. All we've seen them do is take hunting trips for trophies where they deliberately handicap themselves for the sport of it.