The background music of this scene is one of my all-time favorite TNG scores.
Spoilers Strange New Worlds 1x01 - "Strange New Worlds"
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I thought the actor who played Sarek in '09 was quite good as well.
Not by a longshot.
And "hopeful" doesn't mean there won't be hardships along the way. Trek has ALWAYS posited that a great war happened before things turned for the better.
Quinto? His Spock is just a bundle of emotions. STID is a particular offender.
I must admit I'd forgotten how good Peck's Spock was on DSC. He seemed better still in SNW's pilot. A really strong blend of faithful and respectful evocation of Nimoy's early performance with a little bit of his own interpretation to broaden the character out. I hope he can keep it up.
There's always exceptions to the rule. The music explilicity got blander in the early/mid S4 because Berman got rid of the composers who made the better music and said he wanted bland music that didn't stand out or our perform the cast.
He also said he always wanted a B-plot and a major threat in the story, The Inner Light has neither. It's an exception, it's a case where Piller and the other writers and people with weight threw their bulk around and got Berman to let things slide outside the path he wanted. DS9 was also able to get away with this and arced story telling because Berman focused on Voyager and mostly ignored DS9.
The music got blander. Period. There's exceptions, but the music in large in late TNG is very different than early because Berman got rid of the more ambitious composers.
Just saw a scene about WWIII from this ep.
I had assumed, given the presence of familiar terrestrial landmarks in Trek shows, that the nuclear war consisted mainly of detonating warheads high in the atmosphere, crippling infrastructure but not much of actual building substance.
Well, that's different now. So in order to harken our real-life timeline close to the Star Trek timeline, we have to ensure that WWIII is highly destructive? Sigh.
Okay, let's get started.
I had assumed, given the presence of familiar terrestrial landmarks in Trek shows, that the nuclear war consisted mainly of detonating warheads high in the atmosphere, crippling infrastructure but not much of actual building substance.
Well, that's different now. So in order to harken our real-life timeline close to the Star Trek timeline, we have to ensure that WWIII is highly destructive? Sigh.
Okay, let's get started.
Depends on the day and how we are feeling. Variety.
As far as you can prove...
Those poor Marvel movies...
I love holographic displays. I wish there were more but the SNW Bridge is working OK.
Ben Cross was amazing, and the deleted scene between him and Amanda are so warm. RIP.
Just saw a scene about WWIII from this ep.
I had assumed, given the presence of familiar terrestrial landmarks in Trek shows, that the nuclear war consisted mainly of detonating warheads high in the atmosphere, crippling infrastructure but not much of actual building substance.
Well, that's different now. So in order to harken our real-life timeline close to the Star Trek timeline, we have to ensure that WWIII is highly destructive? Sigh.
Okay, let's get started.
It would tend to explain why so much of future cities in Trek now look nothng like the current day. My guess is that the extraordinarily conspicuous and anachronistic landmarks - the Golden Gate bridge, the Eiffel Tower - are reconstructions of some kind, partial or total.
Have we ever heard Washington, DC or Moscow referred to in the present (22nd/23rd/24th century) tense? Now, DC would probably not be considered a major city were it not for being the seat of national government. But Moscow? Maybe Chekov mentioned it?
If not, well, then...
Another caveat, is that Trek was conceived and first produced only three years after the Cuban missile crisis. As destructive as nuclear war between the superpowers would have been at that time, it was peanuts (sort of) compared to the firepower we'd be aiming at each other a scant ten years later...
A very good interview with Henry Alonso Myers (my new leader-for-today) at Trekmovie indicates that they've given a lot of consideration to the way they're retconning the Trek timeline for the new shows - shifting Khan into the 21st century, still ahead of us, for example.
Chekov joked that the Garden of Eden was outside of Moscow in 'The Apple'.
Picard said the Phoenix was on display at the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum in First Contact, which right now is in DC, but it's possible it could have been relocated/rebuilt somewhere else after WW3.
We now know that the Eiffel Tower from the base up had to be reconstructed. Although many classical works of art and literature seem to have escaped destruction so by 2053 perhaps many of them had already been shuttled off to more secure locations in case of war or terrorist attack.
Or just repaired. The Capitol was still largely intact if damaged and I know the Air and Space Museum is within eyeshot of Congress. I could see the buildings we know now damaged by the nuke attack but refurbished and made to look either largely new or like they did before the war.
Unrelated but something I always compare too is in Fallout despite massive nuclear devastation the US Capitol remains intact, for the most part.
That massive iron dome can probably sustain a lot of damage short of a direct hit from something.
There's actually game lore that explains that, but I honestly can't remember what it is off the top of my head.
Given that in the game the White House is completely leveled it's still pretty amazing.
Yeah, I imagine a real life scenario would see the White House leveled while Congress would still have surviving sections thanks to so much iron and metal construction.
Watching it again and taking note of Pike's (excellent and in RL terms timely,) speech, but it's a shame he did not follow his own advice to the Kiley planet leaders, the future is what you make it, his Boreth vision was not set in stone UNLESS it is because he moved the stone, his future was set, but once it was moved things could be changed as what happened with Burnham vision on the bridge in the episode Such sweet sorrow?
(I am going to watch that DISC episode again)
(This is just a vent, I know the T.V production reasons why Pike is doomed, because of Holy canon as per The gospel written according TOS
)
Yeah, did seem to be that way, but I suspect with a lot of relationships, absence did not make the heart grow fonder, in Amok Time he had a childhood picture of her, and did not tell anyone about her
(I am going to watch that DISC episode again)
(This is just a vent, I know the T.V production reasons why Pike is doomed, because of Holy canon as per The gospel written according TOS
)... plus you can tell Spock is completely infatuated with T'Pring.
His side of the conversation was totally inline with being in love.
Right up till he insisted on answering the communicator, what a dweebe thing to do to an absolutely ravishing woman.
Obviously he wasn't in Ponn-Farr at that point.
Yeah, did seem to be that way, but I suspect with a lot of relationships, absence did not make the heart grow fonder, in Amok Time he had a childhood picture of her, and did not tell anyone about her
I loved the nods to Silent Running. But in the Star Trek universe, they didn't abandon the forest pods. That was beautiful. That part also dovetailed nicely and obviously intentionally with "Space Seed."
Do you know how many megatons of redundant nuclear warheads are aimed at the city? There have been multiple targets within individual buildings. Now, they do rotate, but still...
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