Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x10 - "Farewell"

[thribs]

So, can anyone tell me what was the point of that one episode when Picard and Guinan are arrested by the FBI guy? The FBI guy who encountered visiting Vulcans as a kid?

To show you what you remember and what actually happened aren't always the same. It was to mirror what Picard was going through with his mother.
But yeah it was basically filler.

 

[Alexander Corrino]

What I want to know is what Q meant when he said “see you out there”. (This not only mirrors what he said to Jean-Luc before but also the final line from “Encounter At Farpoint” where Jean-Luc says “let’s see what’s out there”.)

I’ll keep hoping that, wherever Q is now, he’s waiting for Jean-Luc to get there, too and that this was his way of telling him.

Also, Jean-Luc asking if he’s important in any way for something - that moment was one where the old Q was shining through for a second. He didn’t really give an answer - he answered with questions. I mean the last thing he would do would be to say “oh yeah, you’re gonna be responsible for holding the threads of the universe together soon” or something. That could change the desired outcome, and Q of all people would know that.

Eh idk. That P/Q scene has SO many questions and hints in general…

 

[137th Gebirg]

I'm pissed we never discovered who Soong was repeatedly cloning.

I had just assumed they were earlier versions of Kore.

 

[137th Gebirg]

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I am NOT AT ALL ashamed to admit that scene made me bawl. Took a while to recover.

 

[The Habs Fan]

They managed to wrap all of the plot lines in a satisfying way. The scene with Q and Picard was the perfect ending to their storyline. Now bring on the TNG reunion in season 3.

 

[fireproof78]

I had just assumed they were earlier versions of Kore.

I thought that was the idea about Soong? He was obsessed with cloning and genetic engineering?

 

[Mr Awe]

I don't understand why you're focusing on all the nonsensical plot points leading up to the touching & sentimental final moments between Picard and Q. It's the final episode - they stuck the landing and that's all that matters, not the preceding episodes. How we meandered to this point or whether it makes any sense is irrelevant.

The magic of this season of Picard is it was never about plot, or logic, or coherence. This was about Q giving Picard a final gift before he died ... died of, you know. Hold on - why was he dying again? Ah see - I did too, trying to make sense of it. I might go, where's the rest of The Q? His wife and son? Does this contradict Voyager's Death Wish which addressed the Q's state of permanence an inability to die. No no ... these are questions of a fool trying to make sense of something transcendent.

Just let the sublime experience wash over you. Don't think about it - that isn't the writers' intent.

Your post might be a bit tongue in cheek, but, to be clear, I loved the final moments between Picard and Q. In my review, I described it as "beautiful." For me, they were the highlight of the episode and probably even the entire season.

Personally, I prefer the plot to be coherent and relatively strong.

But, I loved the gift that Q gave and indeed I gave rated the episode as an 8. That's pretty darn good!

 

[137th Gebirg]

My only real complaint was the unbelievably quick way Laris got into Renee’s room, explained everything, changed her looks, ran into Soong and LAUNCH! Astronauts sit in a rocket/shuttle for hours waiting for all pre-flight checks to complete before taking off. It all happened way too quickly to me and they seemed to be rushing it a little too much. And yeah, Soong was a big one-dimensional “meh”. Loved the rest of it, though.

 

[137th Gebirg]

I thought that was the idea about Soong? He was obsessed with cloning and genetic engineering?

Yep. Q even confirmed it all when he told Kore that she was the “strongest” of the whole production, with strength and longevity being the ultimate goal of genetic engineering. I do have to wonder if the Soong family was inexorably tied to the Khan situation from the beginning, hence the odd similarity of names.

 

[Noname Given]

Which Borg, cause the Jurati Borg most certainly were, thanks to Agnus's influence.

Yeah I can see the Jurate Borg 'greeting' now:

"We are the Borg. Consent is requested..."

 

[Tuskin38]

So, can anyone tell me what was the point of that one episode when Picard and Guinan are arrested by the FBI guy? The FBI guy who encountered visiting Vulcans as a kid?

Don't let the past eat you up and control your future.

 

[dswynne1]

And Strange New Worlds appears to confirm a slightly altered background history (it’s background, not a spoiler): the current cultural conflict we’re in right now eventually builds into the 2nd American Civil War, which eventually builds into the Eugenics Wars (so not the 1990s anymore), which eventually builds into World War III. So if you like some terrifyingly ominous with your optimism, there you are.

In short, we’d better hope it’s an alternate history.

Actually, it doesn't. Pike simply rattled off a bunch of conflicts that led to WW3 without specifying the dates.

 

[137th Gebirg]

It sounded like he was saying things a little bit out of order, though. He put the Eugenics Wars after the second American Civil War.

 

[fireproof78]

Actually, it doesn't. Pike simply rattled off a bunch of conflicts that led to WW3 without specifying the dates.

That's why I like Pike. He talks like me.

 

[DaveyNY]

It sounded like he was saying things a little bit out of order, though. He put the Eugenics Wars after the second American Civil War.

I'm not sure the actual historical order really mattered in the context of who he was talking to.

 

[dswynne1]

I just realized something. If you truncated the seasons into films, we have our post-Nemesis sequels.

Anyway, I liked it. Disappointed that Rios and Jirati are out of the picture, but we do see Picard moving forward in his life.

And it was nice to see Seven get her due, even if it was as "acting Captain". Maybe a full commission next season?

All-in-all, a nice resolution to Season 2. Looking forward to the final act that is PIC. 8/10.

 

[DaveyNY]

WRONG THREAD

 

[137th Gebirg]

I'm not sure the actual historical order really mattered in the context of who he was talking to.

Good point.

 

[Danja]

Here's hoping we get our Seven/Stargazer series in one package!

It reminds of the old Reese's peanut butter cup ads:

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ETA: I'm happy for Wil Wheaton

 

[Sparky]

My only real complaint was the unbelievably quick way Laris got into Renee’s room, explained everything, changed her looks, ran into Soong and LAUNCH! Astronauts sit in a rocket/shuttle for hours waiting for all pre-flight checks to complete before taking off. It all happened way too quickly to me and they seemed to be rushing it a little too much.

That bugged me a bit, for about 10 seconds, then I just accepted it, as it allowed Laris to die knowing for sure that she had succeeded in her mission. Is it accurate to real procedures? No, but I’d rather them do it this way than have some long drawn out sequence that is “more accurate”