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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x10 - "Farewell"

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Cut scene from Star Trek First Contact--

Elderly vagrant near Cochrane's landing site: Picard! It's me, Cristobal Rios! Take me home to the future with you, I can't take it any more! I've been regretting staying here for 40 years, Teresa and her son were not who I thought they were! And World War 3 was too much! Take me home!

Picard: Get away from me you crazy lunatic!
 
I think at this point it can be taken as stated that the various historical discrepancies we now have (including the whopper in Soong’s folder and the possible lack of a 1990s Eugenics Wars) are due to that one time Wesley erred. But I don’t quite get how it works with the Borg now; *that* history seem too recent and all-encompassing to erase, unless we get to Season 3 and discover there never was a Battle of Wolf 359 etc. Which could happen, but I’d be surprised if they actually took that route.
The answer for the Borg is that there are, and always have been, two groups of them.

The Queen's Borg, and Jurati's Borg.

Till now, the Federation has only encountered the Queen's Borg.
 
The answer for the Borg is that there are, and always have been, two groups of them.

The Queen's Borg, and Jurati's Borg.

Till now, the Federation has only encountered the Queen's Borg.
Except we learned a LOT about the Borg, especially in Voyager, and there was never any indication there was a rogue faction that was nicer and friendlier. Seven and Picard were outright assimilated and would retain some knowledge of what the Borg know but neither ever mentioned or even knew of a different Borg faction.
 
During "Tapestry", I think that's queerbaiting too, to a lesser extent. But it went over my 13-year-old head at the time.

Yeah, but queerbaiting was more excusable during the Berman-era homophobia.

This season has an open queer relationship between Seven and Raffi. There's no reason they couldn't make it explicit that Q has always had the hots for Picard. If not a kiss, at least let him drop the l word.
 
Except we learned a LOT about the Borg, especially in Voyager, and there was never any indication there was a rogue faction that was nicer and friendlier. Seven and Picard were outright assimilated and would retain some knowledge of what the Borg know but neither ever mentioned or even knew of a different Borg faction.

This analysis presupposes that the Borg Collective themselves would know of Jurati's faction, though.
 
Except we learned a LOT about the Borg, especially in Voyager, and there was never any indication there was a rogue faction that was nicer and friendlier. Seven and Picard were outright assimilated and would retain some knowledge of what the Borg know but neither ever mentioned or even knew of a different Borg faction.
Sure there was, the first episode of Voyager that they encountered the Borg in, Unity.


This analysis presupposes that the Borg Collective themselves would know of Jurati's faction, though.
Also this.
 
Except we learned a LOT about the Borg, especially in Voyager, and there was never any indication there was a rogue faction that was nicer and friendlier. Seven and Picard were outright assimilated and would retain some knowledge of what the Borg know but neither ever mentioned or even knew of a different Borg faction.

Yeah, but this is one of the cases where it's not an inconsistency. It's just a mystery. Jurati may have been hiding, may have been locked away on a CD somewhere, or something else until the present day.

The answer isn't given us but it's not so bizarre as we can't speculate without tying our brains in knots.
 
Well, those drones in "Unity" had been detached from the Collective and were running their own society of former members. They still had implants and other Borg technology but they were no longer controlled by the hive mind.
 
Yeah, but queerbaiting was more excusable during the Berman-era homophobia.

This season has an open queer relationship between Seven and Raffi. There's no reason they couldn't make it explicit that Q has always had the hots for Picard. If not a kiss, at least let him drop the l word.
I don't do the "they did it too!" thing. Other people here do that, but that's not me. I'm just thinking while I'm typing. These are my live, real-time reactions. I think you're right.
 
I'm pleased they did a big damn kiss with Seven and Raffi. It was a long time coming.
A part of me headcanons that Seven told Chakotay to go back to chasing Janeway and that Seven wasn't content with being the hastily arranged replacement for her.
 
They shouldn't have detailed Rios' death honestly. They should have left an opening for him to come back. Jurati could have come back for him and frozen him until the 25th century maybe.
They did leave openings for him to return.

As a hologram.
 
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