He knows it, he just ignores everything that would clash with his “points”.
She spared her life. Makes sense to me.
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x09 - "Hide and Seek"
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Shoot someone
Patch their leg with a bandage
Ask for their car as thanks for not killing them.
If she is supposed to be this nice borg now why is she mortaly wounding seven
The mortal wound came before Jurati talked the Queen down, it happened during the struggle for dominance, before the personalities merged to become something new. It was the last independent action of the old Borg Queen.
Don’t bother, they’re just here to stir up shit. Look at their username and post history.
What's wrong with my name?
Q manipulating Soongs great great grand father into running over Picard with a tesla is as star trek as you can get.
I did miss remember the episode, but in my defense they spent a whole episode with the fbi agent in a basement but did the borg queens conversion in 3 minutes.
Well this episode proved one thing.
You can bring a knife to a gun fight and win.
Heh. Disclaimer: don't try it in real life. Or do try it- I firmly believe in everyone's right to collect their Darwin Award in the way they see fit.
and you just proved my point.
That's not true at all. The purpose for Wells was to reinforce the themes of the season regarding the "monsters" we imagine to be real, when there are only flawed individuals behind them.
It was one of the better executed episodic plots of the season.
I don’t think you’re a troll or a hater, but I did just file a noise complaint with your landlord on behalf of your neighbors.
Wow way to judge dude
My top 2 moments in star trek are
1. Edith Keeler getting hit by a car and devastating Kirk but preventing nazi take over
2. Picard getting hit by a tesla
What about Data getting hit by a Reman warbird in Nemesis? I think that's what happened - my memory's a bit fuzzy.
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This scene hits so much harder now than it used to.
While I agree with you that the decision to depict Maurice as having locked Yvette in a room "for her own safety" is problematic, I do feel the need to point out an inaccuracy in your summary of the flashback sequences: Through S2, Jean-Luc is flashing back to a single twenty-four-hour period. There is no evidence Maurice was locking her up for "years" or that Yvette's actions endangered Jean-Luc for "years."
I didn't even notice this. Complaining about this is a level of pettiness so profound that I can only say: I salute you and hope that one day I can be as petty.
Imagine being upset that a TV show assumes you are an intelligent person who does not need everything spelled out for you. Do you want them to show the character stats for everyone at the bottom of the screen too? "PICARD: +5 Charisma; -7 Strength"!They explicitly established that Chateau Picard is in a very isolated, rural area, and that the French cop only discovered the ship because he was called out there by the Queen.
They established that the crew of La Sirena returned the cop and wiped his memory, so he never reported a need for more people to come.
Seriously, you should try actually paying attention.
VOY's "Future's End" established that the USS Voyager was able to absorb radio waves used in radar systems with ease. I see no reason La Sirena couldn't do the same, especially if she was cloaked before impact.
Wells had exactly one video of Picard being in front of Guinan's bar.
They made it very clear that Wells was one agent who did not have the confidence of his superiors or colleagues within the bureau.
The episode made it clear that the transporter system was under the remote control of the Queen, which was why she had deactivated the transporters to lock everyone else out before reactivating them to return to the ship and the chateau.
There is no time to prepare. By the time he realizes the system was under active Borg control, the Borg are already coming. He and the civilians run immediately.
Who said they were the best of the best?
Why not? All they saw was Jurati stroke one of their guys' faces. They don't even have a concept of assimilation. What are they gonna think? "Oh no, the woman with pasty skin stroked Jim's face; clearly he's been mind controlled"?
I'm pretty sure the glowy face is a non-diegetic convention for the audience, like the dramatic music that plays in the background, not a diegetic element that exists within the universe of the show.
Yes. Or do you want that spelled out for you as well?
What fundamental reason could they have for not beaming onto a ship full of armed semi-assimilated mercenaries? C'mon, dude. They transported to the chateau to assess the situation aboard the ship before boarding it.
Because she was not in full control of Jurati's body when Jurati left the ship to join the mission to the Europa Mission gala.
Not a continuity issue; they explicitly established that the Queen was in poor health and that her assimilation technology was not functioning as it normally would, and that therefore alterations in mental state can strengthen or weaken the Queen's ability to control the body.
Because she knew she was being tracked and would have been defeated in combat before she could access the replicators, obviously.
No, he was returned to town and his memories wiped before the Queen took control of Jurati's body.
Seriously. Pay attention.
She was able to stop the Queen from killing her, not able to stop the Queen from hurting here. Seriously -- pay attention.
It's almost like Jurati was making an emotional declaration of intention!
I mean, why the fuck else do you think they assimilate people? Why would you want to merge your mind with someone else ad infinitum if you weren't being driven to try to fill a void you can never fill? Why would the Queen have created Locutus unless there was some fundamental isolation driving her? That was literally established in Star Trek: First Contact.
It's almost as bad as reversing the polarity or emitting a resonance burst!
"Conquered?" Jean-Luc Picard isn't some imperialist bastard, he never conquered anyone.
Jean-Luc Picard spent twenty years on TNG jerking Beverly around with mixed signals, only getting into casual relationships, and running away from relationships when they got serious.
What, exactly, makes you imagine that a 59-year-old bachelor, whom we know is not asexual or aromantic and whom we know does not have a career that precludes relationships, and who has spent his entire life avoiding serious commitments, doesn't have unresolved childhood issues? That's already the most plausible explanation for his behavior when TNG starts.
And people who have unresolved issues from their adulthoods often have unresolved childhood issues as well! This is extremely realistic!
Presumably because she needs to get a lock on the drones and can't since she can't see them.
... he explicitly compares Picard to a variable he cannot control in an experiment. In his mind, joining with the Queen has created a particular situation in which he believes the only element he cannot control is Picard. That's not bad writing, that's you having a comprehension issue.
You're confused why a mercenary isn't able to defeat trained combat veterans?
This is like being upset that characters in dark spaces are lit in blue light, or being upset that characters in plays cheat out so the audience can see them: It's a convention of television to allow the audience to follow the story and see and hear the characters.
It is her way of taking a moment to express her love for Seven in a situation in which they both think they'll likely die. Christ, man, do you want these characters to just have no personalities?
She's reacting to Seven's entire personality and leadership abilities. Do you want the D&D stats to say "+7 for Admiration" too?
It's almost as though Seven's wording is vague and is filtered through her own subjective point of view! Is it really so hard to imagine that Janeway tried to get Starfleet to accept Seven, that Seven walked away before Janeway could finish convincing Starfleet, but that Janeway was successful in getting them to let Icheb in?
Fucking duh. That's been a given since last season.
It's almost like Picard didn't think of that option until they were gone. Again: Pay attention.
He's wearing a mobile emitter and he doesn't have physical access to the replicators (which may or may not be able to replicate weapons -- we don't know).
... you're trying to claim it's bad writing that Teresa is assertive?
False. A tricorder can most definitely help identify where the bullet is in order to extract it.
She can if the interface is intuitive and the procedure it's being used to assist with is one that she's already familiar with. Which is clearly what happened.
Also, Rios is right there. He can clearly guide her through things too.
... what claustrophobia? In what episode was Picard ever established as claustrophobic?
The guns are left over from World War II, so they're about 80 years old, not centuries old. Once again: Pay attention.
Why wouldn't they? They're only partially assimilated, and they know they don't have Borg energy shields.
We're 57 bullet points in and a large percentage of your complaints boil down to being upset that an action-adventure show follows the conventions of the action-adventure genre. Yes, Seven and Raffi got through the field, so they probably evaded some Borg and defeated a others. Do you really need this spelled out? Would featuring this have made the episode better?
It's almost as though she's a human being in a state of grief.
Why would he assume that?
It's almost like she's a human being in a state of grief.
Or it's the A.I. of a holographic system (one that had already been established last season to possess a level of psychological insight indicative of potential sentience) deciding to respond to a grieving person by saying something to soothe her pain whether or not it's true.
One of the two.
You just really don't like it when characters act like real people, do you?
She equips herself with a sword because it's awesome, and because she is so arrogant she thinks she'll win.
PIC trusts its audience to infer that her nanoprobes were able to start replicating tentacles again after absorbing the corpse's nanoprobes from the morgue.
Gotta make up for twenty years of Berman Trek starring two-dimensional cardboard cut-outs not well-written enough to have feelings.
His mobile emitter was damaged. Once again: Pay attention.
It's called good acting. Alison Pill is one of the best actors of her generation.
She's literally saying that Seven became the best example of what the Borg could be after Seven left the Collective. Jurati is trying to get the Queen to reconsider her entire concept of what it means to be "Borg."
Also, VOY's "Dark Frontier" and "Endgame" explicitly established that Seven was not just like every other drone, and that she carried special favor with the Queen.
Man, you just don't like psychologically realistic characters, do you?
Episode 2 established that Queens share a consciousness across timelines. This explains why Seven of Nine knew about the events of Star Trek: First Contact in VOY "Year of Hell." The Queen explicitly recognized Seven from the Prime Timeline in PIC S2E2.
I say again: Pay attention.
This is not a complaint, this is just you shitting on the show for featuring characters who have feelings for each other.
He has always acted to try to protect the future. His decision to reveal the truth about his origins to Teresa is indicative of his belief that he must trust her in order to protect the future rather than continuing to lie and manipulate her.
No. The Queen was going to kill her, then Jurati stopped her, then Jurati and the Queen merged into a new personality and Borgati saved her but was forced to put Borg implants back into her body to do so. It was a metaphor for self-acceptance.
You really don't pay attention do you?
Turning Picard into an android was an excellent metaphor for resurrection and new life after confronting death and descending into the underworld.
Presumably because he doesn't want to kill him if he can avoid it, and he recognizes that Soong without the weapon is not a threat who necessitates lethal force.
Why wouldn't it be? And this phaser is from the Confederation timeline, not the Prime Timeline, so there's no continuity issue.
They're not her original implants; they're new ones that follow the same design. It's a metaphor for self-acceptance. The same theme is echoed by another line in the episode: "Are you alright?" "I'm myself."
Who gives a shit about a photo that never appears onscreen in a minor prop from a thirty-year-old movie?
You missed a lot of things.
Because he's focusing on the 21st Century Renee and because there's a point where stopping the episode to talk about this other family member who died but whose death he already processed in a movie released 28 years and four presidents ago would not be good writing.
60% of your complaints stem from you not paying attention. 20% are you having bad taste and complaining about basic conventions of storytelling or characters being psychologically believable. Maybe 20% of your complaints are valid.
"Emotional exploration for its own sake" is the basis of all good fiction.
The Queen stabs her. Jurati stops the Queen from killing her. Then Jurati and the Queen merge to form a new entity. The new entity saves Seven but asks for the ship in order that she may establish her new, benevolent Borg Collective.
Good catch! Also it makes even more sense hat it would be keyed into the handler's DNA if it was Tallinn's weapon.
I recall a poster, who postulated that Star Trek is best fit to explore all aspects of the human condition, regardless of our own comfort or discomfort with what is presented. Even if I don't enjoy watching a character working through trauma it is definitely the foundation of human storytelling.
