Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x08 - "Mercy"

[Timofnine]

In case you are not joking and are serious about this question:
Weed Road Production company is Akiva Goldsman's company.

Well I honestly did not mean to offend anyone, but it is a bit like calling a production company Mycelial Network or Shroom Road Production? Unless there is an actual street called Weed Road like there is a street called Silk Road? Oh get me a red shirt…

 

[Kaelef]

They had a long and turbulent history and I kind of want to know more.

What a great idea for a TV show someone could write!

 

[Guy Gardener]

Well I honestly did not mean to offend anyone, but it is a bit like calling a production company Mycelial Network or Shroom Road Production? Unless there is an actual street called Weed Road like there is a street called Silk Road? Oh get me a red shirt…

The Silk Road was an ancient trade route between Rome and China.

 

[fireproof78]

Well I honestly did not mean to offend anyone, but it is a bit like calling a production company Mycelial Network or Shroom Road Production? Unless there is an actual street called Weed Road like there is a street called Silk Road? Oh get me a red shirt…

There's a whole town of Weed, California.

Weed road is easy. At least in the US
Here in New Mexico.

What a great idea for a TV show someone could write!

If only, if only.

*shakes his head sadly*

 

[Timofnine]

The Silk Road was an ancient trade route between Rome and China.

I don’t know jack about China, I ain’t Nixon… or Kirk…

I have found a Silk Road though…

 

[DeadmeatDiggory]

I guess the handshake from the trailer wasn't

Spoiler

Sisko afterall. Of course, now I'm wondering if the Reckoning tablet was only in the trailer because of some smartass prop guy.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Well, weed is legal in California.​

 

[fireproof78]

Well, weed is legal in California.​

The city preceeded that.

 

[donners22]

Haters are gonna hate no matter what. Angry Joe trashed it. Gave it a 1/10. I am sure Nitpicking Nerd will trash it too when he posts his rant review.

If this is a 1/10 episode, there would have to be plenty of Trek episodes with negative scores. I don't understand why people watch such petulant, hyperbolic attention-seekers.

 

[Quinton]

Haters are gonna hate no matter what. Angry Joe trashed it. Gave it a 1/10. I am sure Nitpicking Nerd will trash it too when he posts his rant review.

I know somebody whose "opinions" seem forged entirely per the thoughts and spectacles of Angry Joe. It's wild. Gets him into some good stuff but makes him miss a ton more.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

I haven't been watching Angry Joe in a while, but I don't remember him being this harsh to things in the past. Either Picard's really hit a nerve or he's gotten a lot more angry in the last few years.

 

[Photoman15]

Other questions:

- Do the FBI/police really have off the grid ‘basement’ processing centers where they can take people/prisoners without legal representation or any form of support for interrogations and threaten their interogaee’s (is that even a word?!) with the fact that no one knows that they are there, therefore they can be disappeared or harmed if they do not cooperate?

Ask Raymond Reddington.

 

[Danja]

I sat through the whole thing.

That doesn't always happen. Well done!


Are the Borg being redone for the 21st century?

 

[Jack Wolfe]

I sat through the whole thing.

That doesn't always happen. Well done!


Are the Borg being redone for the 21st century?

I think we'll see crude proto-Borg drones. Tin soldiers BQ/J can control and direct, but not necessarily interconnected with each other.

 

[Lord Garth]

I think that whoever has been paid an awful lot of money to write and produce this series must have been chosen for a very good reason, for reasons that we may never know or even understand if they were explained to us mere Star Trek fans. Who am I, or even who are we, to critique their multi million dollar Amazon Prime worthy pet Star Trek series grand master plan? As long as we ‘rag tag old school fans’ enjoy the ride (it’s a 21st century ‘wagon train to the stars’ after all!) and the comforting familiarity of legacy characters, I think that we can’t complain really? If we *do* complain too much though then we would be considered as out of touch fans and therefore told that we are too old for Star Trek now - it is made for a ‘New Generation’ of fans that we will never understand or relate to, we missed the passing of the book. This is not ‘our’ Trek…?

I know what you're trying to say but you're on the wrong track, because...

I’m not being a bitter old man/fan btw, I love Picard and the characters are fantastic, new and old alike. It does however feel like someone is not comfortable to, or doesn’t know how to write this show as ‘Star Trek’ yet they are still doing their very best (a good attempt, though misguided) to write it as a standard real world drama/action/fantasy show instead.

... because the only reason they managed to get Patrick Stewart back in the first place is because he didn't want to do another TNG. If he was going to come back, he wanted it to be in a way he hadn't done before. Part of that means "not making it feel like Star Trek." I don't know if I even agree with that, but we'll go with it for the sake of argument. I personally think it's just a different type of Star Trek, exploring the Human Condition in its own way.

What this means for PIC Season 3, regardless, I have no idea. After two seasons of doing things the way Patrick Stewart insisted, maybe now he's at a point where he can finally be onboard with finishing off TNG the way it "should've" been finished off with "one last adventure" since Nemesis was a shitty way to do it.

As for whether or not you're old: Unless you're 70 or older, all I have to say is, "Oh please... " No offense. I don't know about you but, at 42, I still have trouble even identifying as "middle-aged", even though I know I am. Forget about "old". 70, 80, 90, 100. That's old.

 

[gvn2fly]

I haven't been watching Angry Joe in a while, but I don't remember him being this harsh to things in the past. Either Picard's really hit a nerve or he's gotten a lot more angry in the last few years.

I think some of the complaint pages feed off each other. I've even seen some people on twitter say they liked the show, then started watching the youtube reviews, and now hate it.

 

[gvn2fly]

Haters are gonna hate no matter what. Angry Joe trashed it. Gave it a 1/10. I am sure Nitpicking Nerd will trash it too when he posts his rant review.

Lots of people trashing it on twitter.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Lots of people trashing it on twitter.

And I should care because?

 

[gvn2fly]

I know what you're trying to say but you're on the wrong track, because...

... because the only reason they managed to get Patrick Stewart back in the first place is because he didn't want to do another TNG. If he was going to come back, he wanted it to be in a way he hadn't done before. Part of that means "not making it feel like Star Trek." I don't know if I even agree with that, but we'll go with it for the sake of argument. I personally think it's just a different type of Star Trek, exploring the Human Condition in its own way.

So, I was listening to an interview with the director of 2.7-2.8 and he's a Star Trek/TNG fan, we know co-showrunner Akiva has been a longtime Star Trek fan and even went to conventions in the 70s, Co-showrunner Terry Matalas is a big Star Trek fan and even worked on Voyager/Enterprise, Production designer Dave Blass is a huge Trek fan...Lea Thompson who directed episodes 2.3 and 2.4 is a huge Trek fan, and I'm sure there are others involved who are huge Trek fans (and there are according to that director). Well, what the director said was even they are all huge fans, from a creative standpoint they do not want to repeat what has been done before. Basically, they feel the same way as Patrick did..My words here, but there are hundreds of episodes of Berman Trek...why do the same thing now? Why does it have to look like those shows from the 80s/90s like so many people want? Would that be of interest to the actors/writers/production designers/creatives involved with the show?

I've also seen complaints about season 2 not feeling like Trek because it's on Earth. With so many new Trek shows right now..I'm not upset about 8 episodes of Trek out of 50 for the year taking place on Earth. Now, there are arguments to be made that maybe from a story point of view, what the writers planned out didn't quite work so well and I wouldn't necessarily disagree...but that's a writing / story argument. I really don't get behind the statements that Star Trek has to be a certain thing or has to "feel" a certain way. I even saw somewhere someone say the new shows should have Matte paintings so it could feel like the old shows...i mean really?

 

[gvn2fly]

And I should care because?

You shouldn't. Just stating my observation.