Not a super-common name, but....
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x04 - "Watcher"
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If you can’t see the blindingly obvious, then I can’t help you.
You misunderstand. I was using an example of an ethnically-sounding Latino last name to show that they weren’t going to give Meaney’s character a name that wasn’t going to be inline with the actor’s own ethnicity. They named Meaney’s character after the actor who played him because they knew Meaney was getting the part. Conversely, it’s possible that the part of Jurati was originally meant for an Asian actor, but when Pill was cast, they didn’t change the character name for whatever reason like they did with, say, Bashir (whom @eschaton pointed out was originally named Amoros, which is ethnically Italian.)
Probably the name, which can be found in India and Pakistan. Though It doesn't seem to be common. It's also a Latin word, as mentioned before. A quick search at Ancestry. com shows Juratis in the Americas and Europe some going back to 19th Century with first names in English, German, Hungarian, Italian, Spanish, and French.
I'm Asian, and Jurati doesn't even sound remotely Asian at all.
Hell, it doesn't even sound like a human last name.
It really sounds like the writers wanted a unique last name, so they pulled it out of thin air.
Hell, it doesn't even sound like a human last name.
It really sounds like the writers wanted a unique last name, so they pulled it out of thin air.
QMy most important question about this episode is ‘who watches the watchers’?
There could be any number of reasons for that.
I suppose it would depend on which part of Asia that particular character was envisioned to have come from.
Asia's a big place with a wide range of languages and cultures. The name is found in India, which last time I checked was part of Asia and is inhabited by humans.
If this is a multi-verse setup, then the Confederation and its version of Picard would happen regardless of what our heroes do in 2024. The event likely would have multiple outcomes, all becoming their own branching timelines.
It seems like with the Borg Queen and Jurati, they could find their way back to their proper time and place.
It seems like with the Borg Queen and Jurati, they could find their way back to their proper time and place.
Universe, timeline, same diff.
That's where you are miscalculating. Other universes, as seen is Parallels, and the mirror and Kelvin Universes are treated distinctly differently from timelines. We aren't ever told what causes a new parallel universe, but when one does split off it duplicates the previous history, it doesn't share it.
If time travelers from 2 different but similar universes went back in time to fix a shared past event then they would run into each other and that never happens. Kirk doesn't run into another Kirk in 1986 that has Pancakes instead of eggs for breakfast.
Each universe has one timeline and the one in play in Picard is the Confederacy timeline past and future.
I think they wanted Alison Pill who is actually something of a big name and a real get. So I could maybe see them wanting a Asian character but they couldn't turn down the chance to hire Pill. Maybe this is why Commodore Oh was created despite her daughter being not Asian.
We know that already. A grade 1 supervisorMy most important question about this episode is ‘who watches the watchers’?
I actually agree. If they're already in a divergent timeline, I don't understand why they are waiting for a divergent point. It doesn't make sense unless you just ignore "Time's Arrow". Then the problem disappears.
That being said....
I'm willing to accept aging franchises have to revise their backstory from time to time. They have made a creative decision not to acknowledge "Time's Arrow" for dramatic purposes. I'll just pretend time travel is weird and go with it. I'm not going to let it spoil what has been an entertaining season of star trek.
However, I can understand how it might throw others for a loop.
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This. What I've gathered from the combined story layout and dialogue is that they're already in the beginnings of the confederation timeline, and Q brought them back right before the split where it becomes too late to change it. If they *do* act in time, the timeline shifts to what we would know as the proper one, but if they *don't* act in time, the timeline continues and heads down the confederation path.
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Alison Pill really was such a good get for casting. Good name recognition, good actress, and still new enough that her rates probably weren't too out of reach.
Go to about the 33 minute mark in "Penance". Picard explains that it is a changed timeline not a different reality.
"Engines of Destiny" has a similar take. Where Scott takes Kirk off of the Enterprise-B when the Nexus strikes the ship.
I think the mind blowing part will be when they drop the bomb that the Confederation timeline is actually the proper timeline and someone changed it into what we know.
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I've been suspecting that for a while. It would tie into how things are for us today, with the social commentary, and be a pretty good twist on how we do time travel stories.
I also like that. Not because I necessarily agree, but because it's interesting and reasonable (as are other alternatives).
Pretty much my thought process, as I said above likening it to Back to the Future 2, Biff has the almanac but he's not rich and corrupt yet, still time to get the almanac back. But even though they're at a point before the almanac is used you can't just go to the future from now (or even from a point before 2015 Biff was there) and go to the normal future, right now the temporal assumption is the bad thing will happen that causes the negative future.
The only wrench here is the gag with the punk on the bus, which is a gag that only works if the future we know is the one that happens (the Confederacy makes too many curves that makes the bus punk interaction harder to grasp.)
The bus punk gag was fun, but it kind of hurts the time-travel logic they're going with, unless they come up with something and say the future is splintered. Both futures are "possible" and neither is set so we both have the punk on the bus with his memories his encounter with Kirk and Spock as we see it in TVH *and* we have the jaded and cynical Guinan who doesn't remember Picard because "Time's Arrow" didn't happen.
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If you want, you can see the punk on the bus as experiencing a temporal echo. Something triggers his reaction when Seven tells him to turn down the noise, but he has no recollection of anything that would have caused it except that feeling of discomfort. Of course, we know in the primary timeline, Kirk and Spock encounter him on the bus in San Francisco. Echoes of that timeline would create a ripple effect, kind of like deja vu, even if nothing happened, because time is not a flat line that moves from point to point, it's more a folded bit of cheese cloth touching one part to the other and linking unrelated events.
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