There was a mention of Voyager in Season 1 when they're on Freecloud and she mentions that Icheb was also aboard the ship with her, but yeah, there've been few references to the old series.
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x04 - "Watcher"
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Ref Times Arrow and whether it happened or not people keep saying that the point of change hasn’t happened yet so at this point we’re still in the Federation Timeline.
That assumption only works if the change on the 15th is something Picard and Co do with no outside influence but it seems obvious this isn’t the case.
The Original timeline “A” had no time travel in 2024.
Someone (maybe Q) went to 2024 and changed the timeline into “B” which leads to the confederation this is the timeline that they travel back in and are currently in.
When Picard gets back to 2024 there are broadly two results. Either Timeline “B” persists because they do nothing nor fail their mission.
Or Timeline C happens where they are successful in their mission. Timeline C is exactly the same as Timeline A apart from what happens in these 3 days because the hero’s actions stop the change from becoming so big as to make a difference.
So as of now we are in timeline B where there was no federation.
This is how timetravel has been shown to work a lot in Trek.
CITY ON THE EDGE OF FOREVER
A: No time travelers present. Edith Keeler is killed.
B: McCoy saves Keeler.
C: Timetravelers present. Kirk stops McCoy. Edith Keeler is killed.
That assumption only works if the change on the 15th is something Picard and Co do with no outside influence but it seems obvious this isn’t the case.
The Original timeline “A” had no time travel in 2024.
Someone (maybe Q) went to 2024 and changed the timeline into “B” which leads to the confederation this is the timeline that they travel back in and are currently in.
When Picard gets back to 2024 there are broadly two results. Either Timeline “B” persists because they do nothing nor fail their mission.
Or Timeline C happens where they are successful in their mission. Timeline C is exactly the same as Timeline A apart from what happens in these 3 days because the hero’s actions stop the change from becoming so big as to make a difference.
So as of now we are in timeline B where there was no federation.
This is how timetravel has been shown to work a lot in Trek.
CITY ON THE EDGE OF FOREVER
A: No time travelers present. Edith Keeler is killed.
B: McCoy saves Keeler.
C: Timetravelers present. Kirk stops McCoy. Edith Keeler is killed.
In the real world, everything you said makes sense. The thing is, Star Trek isn’t the real world. The character names are created at the whims of the producers, and are usually indicative of the actor they envision that character will be played by (which may change once a specific actor is finally cast for the role.) That’s why Colm Meaney’s character is named O’Brien and not Ramirez.
That's untrue, by which I mean the following.
In "The City on the Edge of Forever," we have no demonstration of any kind that option #A ever occurred. We witness option #C, and Spock deduces that option #B occurred, relative to the landing party on the Guardian's planet, after McCoy went through and before Kirk and Spock went through.
As for option #A? Whether it ever occurred is entirely supposition. It's assumed by some fans that it happened, but the on-screen events are perfectly compatible with the premise that fixing the timeline means not only saving Edith, but in fact restoring option #C.
In addition, if we take what the Guardian says at the end, "All is as it was before," as being literally true with the emphasis on the word all, then the time travelers went back originally, and there was never any option #A.
Wasn't Meaney just "Conn Officer" when first cast. They gave him the name O'Brien when they brought Meaney back and made the character reoccurring. Though the argument could be made (prior to AGT) thay Meaney was playing two different characters. I wonder if the character was created just for Meaney. Until we get some BTS info on the development of Jurati, we won't know who they had in mind for Sarton/Jurati, why she's named "Agnes Jurati" and at what point Allison Pill became involved.
I doubt Meaney’s role in EAF was originally meant to be the same guy as O’Brien; he was just an extra. That was retconned later for AGT. Picard just calls him ‘Conn’ in dialogue.
Famously, Julian Bashir was supposed to be Julian Amoros before Alexander Siddig was cast.
Or Macha Hernandez.
I'm still curious why you think Jurati was intended to be Indian or Pakistani.
Think about it for a second.
They traveled back in time from a Confederation future, so that is the timeline actively in play until they change it.
Jurati sort of sounds South Asian but as STID showed "Khan Noonien Singh" can mean pasty white British guy. 
Again: There is no timeline "actively in play" until the divergence. Both Federation and Confederation timelines are possible futures. One cannot be dominant over the other UNTIL the divergence occurs.
Yes, Picard and crew did travel back from the Confederation future, but the Federation future also still exists. Just like the Kelvin vs. Prime timelines...
Wait, at what point was O'Brien going to be named Ramirez? Considering they didn't give the character a name until his sixth appearance (fourth in which he was the transporter chief and therefore definitely the same intended character) it'd be odd if there were ever considering giving a Hispanic name to someone who was definitely not played by a Hispanic actor.
Nope, not according to the time travel rules this season is using.
The Kelvin timeline is a completely separate universe.
I don't consider background writer/producer comments to be binding. If they don't say it in the episode, it never happened.
I don't think the intent of the Kelvin films was that Nero and Spock Prime emerged into the past of a parallel universe. It was the same one. Their actions just created a branching timeline - exactly like this one.
IIRC, this isn't a multi-verse type of event, like 2009. This is a changed timeline, according to Q.
Yeah, no. I prefer to think these things through and not be dependent on someone who will eventually be replaced by someone with a different take.
They're more binding than your opinion on the matter, since they created the show, those were the rules they were operating on when they wrote the episodes.
And we have evidence in the episode that it's true because Guinan doesn't remember Picard.
They're two completely different concepts. The Mirror Universe isn't a separate timeline, it's a different reality, same with the Kelvin Universe, same with all the universes Worf travelled through in Season 7. Different quantum realities.
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