Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 4x12 - "Species 10-C"

[ThreeEdgedSword]

So we have three contenders for "leaving to stay with 10-C for a while and never to be seen again," - Rillek, because she's a diplomat (and her arc of recognizing the awesomness of Captain Burnham is complete); Book, because he can do the inter-species communication thingie (and because there is no realistic way back imho), and T'Rina, who is also qualified in the field of diplomacy as well as probably telepathic (but her arc with Saru is not complete; usually writers wait until they're happy together before they kill one of them off). They'd make a good team. I like all of them and hope that Rilek and T'Rina will return safely. (For Book, I just don't want a situation where he gets a mild reprimand and then everythng is fine.)

 

[fireproof78]

I hope they all stay.

 

[Nerys Myk]

It's Star Trek. Mild Reprimand or Heroic Sacrifice are pretty much the only choices.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

I guess in a universe where telepathy is such an accepted and normal thing, giving it a long distance aspect doesn't seem like too much of a stretch. I often wonder why (seemingly) no one has devoted much time to blocking telepaths. We know they can detect telepathy, so you'd think someone would try their best to negate it.

I'm sure the Devore Imperium has been working on that tech for quite a while.

 

[Turtletrekker]

It's Star Trek. Mild Reprimand or Heroic Sacrifice are pretty much the only choices.

To this day, I gnash my teeth thinking about the final scene of The Pegasus where Picard visits Riker in his cell and tell him that there will be a hearing and then he just lets him out and back on duty. Even back then I was screaming at the television, "no keep his ass in the f****** cell until the hearing".

 

[Locutus of Bored]

I often wonder why (seemingly) no one has devoted much time to blocking telepaths. We know they can detect telepathy, so you'd think someone would try their best to negate it.

Beverly gave Deanna a "psilosynine inhibitor" to suppress her telepathy/empathic ability when she was being overwhelmed by the psychic residue of a murder in the nacelle control room in TNG 'Eye of the Beholder.' Though psilosynine is a neurotransmitter that gives Betazoids their telepathy, so it probably only works on them.

In DS9 'The Jem'Hadar', Quark mentions that there are many types of telepathic suppressors of a technological variety (though as of TNG 'Violations', the Federation does not yet possess any), but most of them tend to be bulky devices. Which is one of the ways how he recognized that the lightweight telekinetic suppression collar worn by the Vorta Eris was a fake and she was not a prisoner at all.

The ancient Vulcan Stone of Gol weapon targeted anyone with aggressive thoughts or emotions, so it could have conceivably been used as a countermeasure against other telepaths back during the Vulcan/Romulan Schism.

The Federation (psycho-tricorder), Klingons (mind scanner), Romulans (mind probe), and Breen (cortical implants) all had devices capable of recording thoughts and memories telepathically. Extrapolating from that you'd logically think developing a countermeasure would be next. I could see the Federation refusing to do so for ethical reasons, but the others would have no qualms about it.

 

[NCC-73515]

To this day, I gnash my teeth thinking about the final scene of The Pegasus where Picard visits Riker in his cell and tell him that there will be a hearing and then he just lets him out and back on duty. Even back then I was screaming at the television, "no keep his ass in the f****** cell until the hearing".

Why? Was he that expendable? Was he a risk to the ship? Was his crime that huge and that recent?

 

[fireproof78]

Why? Was he that expendable? Was he a risk to the ship? Was his crime that huge and that recent?

Other than recent , yes

One, Riker is absolutely that expendable. He gets sent on away missions after all. His absence should be easy to fill on the trip back for a hearing.

Two, could he be trusted? At the moment, he demonstrated a past willingness to disobey the principles of Starfleet. Some trust needed to be reearned.

Three, was his crime that huge? Yes. He not only revealed classified information to an entire crew, but then the captain revealed that information to a belligerent foreign power. That would require an investigation at least.

 

[Akiraprise]

I give this one an 8 /10

Finally got around to watching it. It was certainly a slower paced episode that, I won't say ripped off, was an homage to several other first contact type movies we have seen over the years. I started to nod off in places but I am chalking that up to tiredness from work.

It was not a bad episode. Reno was useful, who is probably my favorite character, and it's nice that they are using her snark for good at the end of the season. The crew not really wondering where the chief engineer is in the middle of a crisis and trying to track her down is sort of unbelievable. As others have mentioned Zora picking this most inopportune time to admit she's having issues was not very convenient. Tarka is an unrepentant moron with the copious amount of evidence before him now that 10-C is intelligent and willing to communicate. Book has now realized this too late and he really should not be around in Season 5. The command officers primal screaming at each other in a crisis was... odd. But if someone isn't having a cry or needing a hug in the middle of a crisis it's not a Discovery episode.

All in all though I was entertained. Bring on the finale.

 

[Tosk]

In DS9 'The Jem'Hadar

Good point, I had forgotten about that one.

As you say, no surprise if the Feds didn't pursue it but it'd be pretty surprising if others shared that sentiment.

 

[Captrek]

Tarka is an unrepentant moron with the copious amount of evidence before him now that 10-C is intelligent and willing to communicate.

He isn’t a moron, he just doesn’t give a fuck about anything but his own desire to get that power source to transport him to Paradise Universe. If that means that several populated planets, or even entire galaxies, are destroyed, he doesn’t care. He’s evil, not stupid.

 

[Noname Given]

One of the more annoying concepts Trek has done with a species, in my book. Having humanoid species be able to perform instantaneous mental communication across light years apparently without any technological input is... quite remarkable, and yet not remarked upon.

Honestly the Talosians in TOS S1 - "The Menagerie" seemed able to do just that over Galactic distances quite easily. If you go with the fact that Spock set everything up with The Keeper before he directed the Enterprise to the Starbase where Pike was being kept; the distance is involved were quite large.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

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[Visitor1982]

Considering how similar this season has been to TMP, maybe he’ll merge with them, a la Decker, or stay behind so the show avoids needing to deal with the consequences of his actions. (If he doesn’t end up making the big sacrifice to save the day.)

I hope not. I like Book. But they’ve kinda backed themselves into a corner. And I’m not sure his dynamic works with Burnham as captain anyway.

Book can't come back next season. That would be completely unbelievable and unrealistisc, even for Star Trek.

 

[Search4]

Mild prediction.
Earth and Ni’Var (Vulcan) are threatened.
Burnham is the arbiter of planetary disputes in the Federation.
Earth is not a member.
For some reason they will have to choose which one to save.
She will have to save the Federation member. Earth is hammered.

 

[Therin of Andor]

The blocking choices, everyone stand in a circle, are beginning to stand out as very repetitive and flat.

Probably a Covid Plan requirement in scenes with more than a few people.

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

Honestly the Talosians in TOS S1 - "The Menagerie" seemed able to do just that over Galactic distances quite easily. If you go with the fact that Spock set everything up with The Keeper before he directed the Enterprise to the Starbase where Pike was being kept; the distance is involved were quite large.

Spock also felt the deaths of the all Vulcan crewed Endeavor in a very Obi Wan Kenobi sort of way.

 

[Vale]

He isn’t a moron, he just doesn’t give a fuck about anything but his own desire to get that power source to transport him to Paradise Universe. If that means that several populated planets, or even entire galaxies, are destroyed, he doesn’t care. He’s evil, not stupid.

He's a bargain basement Soran then.

 

[jackoverfull]

Probably a Covid Plan requirement in scenes with more than a few people.

unlikely. Periodic testing is mandatory, as are face masks unless you are on screen and a certain level of isolation from outside world, otherwise everything works as before.

 

[fireproof78]

Spock also felt the deaths of the all Vulcan crewed Endeavor in a very Obi Wan Kenobi sort of way.

Intrepid.