Anyone notice the technobabble in this episode. It seems the writers are really dialing up the technobabble lately. The bubbles that Discovery used to ride through the galactic barrier was pure technobabble. TNG or VOY would have been proud.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 4x10 - "The Galactic Barrier"
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This season is pushing back towards TNG/VOY style at least with the anamoly and mystery species.
I interpreted the scene in a different way. It seemed to me pretty transparently meant as a sop to the actor who is leaving the show. We as viewers aren't particularly supposed to care, but Saru's lines about seeing him off to his new endeavor directly reference that the actor got another job and couldn't stay part of the cast.
Which is very self indulgent/stupid of them, but eh, casts develop strong emotional bonds, since they spend more time together between shots/in alternate takes than we ever see. And Michelle Paradise is both the head writer and the showrunner, which probably means she's around the cast pretty often. So she gave Bryce this little fond farewell instead of (or maybe in addition to) giving the actor a cake.
It seems pretty clear to me he's been "put on a bus." But it's kind of mind-blowing, because they literally just finished up his "arc" and then he noped out of there.
Honestly as it is, if they aren't going to use Grey again, I feel like it would have been more impactful if he was "one and done" in Forget Me Not.
Earth will get destroyed, mark my words.
Fluidic space too, though I suppose that's not really what they're talking about here.
Opening a can of worms here, I guess, but you could make an argument that it's TNG onward that made the mistake They traveled similar distances in "Where No Man Has Gone Before", "By Any Other Name"*, and "The Magicks of Megas-Tu", and they made trips back to Earth between each of these. Between those and Star Trek V it seems that Kirk and the Enterprises have travelled roughly the diameter of the galaxy twice from those trips alone. Somewhere along the line we pinned down warp speeds in such a way that Voyager would've taken 200 years to make those same trips. I'm sure there have been plenty of attempts to rationalize it, but one could still argue that pinning down the warp speeds in a way that raised the questions was the real mistake.
*Admittedly with a Kelvan warp upgrade, but we've seen them get there without it before.
To each their own, but I'm not a big believer in the attitude that anything that isn't driving the season arc forward is a waste of time. Even a relatively serialized show like Deep Space Nine thrived on "digressions" from the main arcs, and it was much richer for it. Even though it wasn't amazing, I was glad to see some time taken to explore the character.
Can't it just be that they're friends who share a tight bond from close quarters and adversity? Feel like we spent a pretty good amount of time exploring that. Definitely reflects some valued friendships I've had over the years.
Now you're just looking for troubleThe next 3 weeks will have DIS and PIC on at the same time
If they even release them at the same minute, I'll watch PIC first.
See?
That would be a surprise.
It’s possible as Earth has played such a small part these past two seasons, but I sincerely doubt it. Pushing that story would definitely bring the show into a more grimdark (God I hate that term) view. Despite what some think of the current iterations, Star Trek is not grimdark. It is an optimistic vision of the future. Destroying our world would certainly be REALLY dark.
It would be a bold move, and IMHO correct insofar as it would make the Federation finally "move beyond" its founding worlds.
That said, destroying the Earth in the far future would piss off a huge section of Trek fandom, who would (for some asinine reason) decide that a "bad ending" invalidates everything that came before. Much as there were many who complained the "no Federation" at the start of Season 3 implied that the whole thing was futile.
I actually like the idea of giving Bryce a farewell scene, I just think this scene was trashed by bad execution choices. It's the big swelling music at the end commanding the audience to FEEL that really sinks it for me. It's so pushy, intrusive, and unearned.
But, like many things on Discovery, though the scene as executed is a failure, it's also infuriatingly close to working. Tweak the lines slightly and cut the music, and that would be great. Though they never wrote anything of consequence for Bryce, he has been around long enough to merit acknowledgement on his way out. His thanks to Saru and walking off tossing a smile back is a perfect final moment -- if it wasn't smothered by cheesy FEEL NOW!!!!!! music.
Sure it can, and I would love that, I just don't feel like this episode actually told us that. Those Tarka/Oros scenes were so generic, and that generic nature seemed to be an outgrowth of playing coy with exactly what the nature of their relationship was. I was dying for some clarity so that the writing could get richer & more specific.
That being said, it certainly seems like we're going to re-encounter Oros this season, and I could see my feelings on this plot changing after we see where it's heading.
This is the calm before the storm episode. And I get it's purpose but we should have gotten Tarka's back story about 1 episode after Tarka first was in the series ... The story isn't a bad one at all, my problem is the order they are giving it to us. If we have a connection to the character than it is easier to have the journey with him. Without the connection we are growing frustrated with a character we don't have a reason to care about. So this is my biggest problem with the whole season 4 structure. The stories are okay, just their order should have been change around a little bit.
Ok, how many setup/filler episodes are they going to have? Just DO SOMETHING already! Why can't a room full of professional screenwriters come up with a story that actually takes 10-11 episodes to tell instead of just taking a story that TOS used to do in an hour and stretching it out an ungodly long time?
That is not the way.
One issue I had with the Tarka/Oros story is from what Oros said about the alternate universe, it basically just sounded like his race's version of heaven. He offered no proof whatsoever that it actually existed. I was surprised that Tarka as a scientist could be so credulous, but imprisonment does weird things to a mind.
I really hope Oros doesn't end up to be behind the DMA with glowy silver eyes. It would basically result in Season 4 being a retread of Season 3, where a huge galactic threat was actually caused by a manchild with godlike powers who felt a feeling.
I really hope Oros doesn't end up to be behind the DMA with glowy silver eyes. It would basically result in Season 4 being a retread of Season 3, where a huge galactic threat was actually caused by a manchild with godlike powers who felt a feeling.
No! Not...feelings...!?
"Above all things a god must have compassion! MITCHELL!"
"Above all things a god must have compassion! MITCHELL!"
To be clear, I don't think there's anything wrong with it in concept as a story arc. That said, I do think that going back to the same well twice in a row would show a lack of creativity - much in the same way people complained that the finale of Season 1 of Picard showed synthetics who were way too close to Control on Season 2 of DIS.
If they're going to go down the godlike powers route, better that Book end up with glowly eyes, and become the true antagonist. Nothing scarier than a god who is consumed by grief.
Trauma does funny things to one's mind....and scientists are no exception.
A Gilligan's Island reference on Star Trek. Now I've seen it all.
Some people here must have been in attention-span hell when seasons were 26 episodes long and the Dominion War storyline took five seasons to tell.
A good thing the Year Of Hell only took two episodes instead of a full season, or your heads would have exploded.
I, for one, am glad we got as many as 13 episodes of Discovery and a few episodes of "getting there" are just fine with me.
A good thing the Year Of Hell only took two episodes instead of a full season, or your heads would have exploded.
I, for one, am glad we got as many as 13 episodes of Discovery and a few episodes of "getting there" are just fine with me.
Yes. the overall Dominion arc spanned multiple seasons but each individual DS9 episode told a self-contained story that was really good and engaging. There were a few clunkers but most episodes of DS9 were really good by themselves. I think people don't mind long arcs if each episode is really good.
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