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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 4x08 - "All In"

Rate the episode...

  • 10 - Excellent!

    Votes: 10 7.4%
  • 9

    Votes: 11 8.1%
  • 8

    Votes: 44 32.6%
  • 7

    Votes: 31 23.0%
  • 6

    Votes: 18 13.3%
  • 5

    Votes: 14 10.4%
  • 4

    Votes: 2 1.5%
  • 3

    Votes: 1 0.7%
  • 2

    Votes: 2 1.5%
  • 1 - Terrible.

    Votes: 2 1.5%

  • Total voters
    135
I have a strong general dislike changing the look of species for change's sake – the Kelvin timeline Caitians

They were scripted as female Caitian twins, but the dialogue doesn't ever identify them as such. Caitian facial appliances were created for the scene, along with scaly appliances and others, but the felinoid pieces went unused, except for the tails. So those aliens may be part-Caitian, but they could also be something else entirely.

Similarly, James Blish used an early TOS script of "The Gamesters of Triskelion" to adapt it into prose for Bantam Books. He features a red alien thrall with nose-flaps covering its nostrils instead of the Andorian in the actual episode. Presumably the Andorian was easier to do, since the wig, costume and antennae were already in storage.
 
First Nero and now this. What does Trek have against miners? :p

They never forgave them for trafficking in Mudd's women, or killing those Horta babies...

unless she becomes eViL and we get a new rampant AI, but I don’t think this will happen.

I wonder if the room in the Daystrom Institute that we saw in Lower Decks is still around...

Here's the clearest and closest shot of the Changeling's Xindi-Insectoid form:

Xindi-Insectoid-Shape-Taken-By-Changeling-3190.jpg

Maybe they're just a bad Changeling...?

First of all, the Founders don't change culturally. They have basically been doing the same thing in the Dominion for 10,000 yrs, right?

Past performance is not necessarily indicative of future results

Secondly, there is no "they" (plural). The Great Link was essentially one organism.

...Since when?????????????
 
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The woman fighting a man beats him by punching him in the balls, yawn! how predictable :rolleyes:

Are we supposed to believe that the Orions missed all those signs Book & Burnham were giving each other during Poker? It was practically a neon sign over their heads saying "I'm cheating I'm cheating!"
 
I gave this one a 6, although that may be a bit unfair because I personally feel like momentum was hurt a bit by the hiatus (and I also feel like some Prodigy episodes were more enjoyable than 4x08). There wasn't really anything I didn't like per se in this episode, maybe the poker scene -although it was kindve fun- and the fight scene were somewhat misses for me )but it didn't really engage me like most of the season has.

This one may just be on me, but I didn't feel like finding out the purpose of the DME had the impact it was supposed to. It just felt like it was tagged on at the end with some quick technobabble to figure it out - Not that Trek hasn't done that plenty of times before of course. I'm also somewhat tired of the DME "mystery" and it's starting to feel like it's being dragged out just so it can be "solved" in time for the season finale.
 
‪‪I haven’t seen any mention of it so far on the thread, but one of Haz Mazaro’s first lines after Burnham and Owosekun showed up was, ‪‪I believe, the first mention of something originating from Lower Decks in one of the other series:

Haz Mazaro said:
I heard we had Starfleet guests, so I just had to scurry like a spider cow to welcome you.

And this makes me happy.
 
Did we though? Changelings! Changelings everywhere!!!
Burnham: Admiral Vance, I must talk to you.

Vance: Burnham! We've just received word that Saru has destroyed the DMAs. We're on our way to make sure the President returns emergency powers back to the Council.

Burnham: She won't give up her power. I've just learned a terrible truth. I think President Rillak is a Changeling.

Vance: [surprised] A Changeling?!

Burnham: Yes, the one we've been looking for.

Vance: How do you know this?

Burnham: I saw her melt to liquid in the evening. She's been trained in the ways of the old Dominion.

Vance: Then our worst fears have been realized. We must move quickly if the Federation is to survive.
 
...Since when?????????????

ODO: You haven't told me your name.
FOUNDER: What use would I have for a name?
ODO: To differentiate yourself from the others.
FOUNDER: I don't.
ODO: But you are a separate being, aren't you?
FOUNDER: In a sense.
ODO: When you return to the Link, what will happen to the entity I'm talking to right now?
FOUNDER: The drop becomes the ocean.
ODO: And if you choose to take solid form again?
FOUNDER: The ocean becomes a drop.
ODO: Ah, yes. I think I'm beginning to understand.
FOUNDER: Then you can answer your own question. How many of us are there?
ODO: One. And many. It depends on how you look at it.
FOUNDER: Very good. You are beginning to understand. But there's so much you don't know.
 
The moment that drop is separated from the whole and begins to operate independently, it's for all intents and purposes an individual Founder. It doesn't matter whether they started off as an extract of the whole Chain's consciousness or has always existed as an individual inside the chain; the moment they become separate and begin to collect their own experiences, they're their own separate person regardless.
 
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