Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 4x08 - "All In"

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Kayla's the pilot, so Owosekun's the navigator, I think.

Owo is the operations officer.

Detmer is both helm officer and navigator.

(TOS is the only Trek series which had separate duty stations for helm and navigation; all others since then, have combined those two positions into one.)

 

[Nerys Myk]

First Nero and now this. What does Trek have against miners?

They get twitchy around Hortas.

 

[jackoverfull]

Reno is the chief engineer, right?

I don’t think so, but I can’t say I’m sure at this point.

First Nero and now this. What does Trek have against miners?

it’s difficult to get decent acting out of them. Just see rascals.

 

[Mr Awe]

Gave it a 7. It was ok. Entertaining. But not unusually good or bad. It also highlighted that the mid-season finale was a bit off. Kind of killed the momentum. There was no major reveal that built up the suspense over the break.

As for this episode, it just kind of carried the status quo of how things were. Passed time on the main plot points. It was fun seeing the competition both fighting and gambling. Michael had a good strategy knowing her relative weakness at the game.

Enjoyable but otherwise not notable. Nice to see a changeling! I'd hope for some sort of update on them.

 

[Mr Awe]

I much rather have more Zora development and what is happening with Hugh at this point than the DMA.

To each their own, but the Zora story is dullsville for me because we've had so much of that with Data. And really, this is Star Trek, so there's only one route they can go with it. She's her own sentient, self-aware being with full rights and privileges. Done!

 

[jackoverfull]

To each their own, but the Zora story is dullsville for me because we've had so much of that with Data. And really, this is Star Trek, so there's only one route they can go with it. She's her own sentient, self-aware being with full rights and privileges. Done!

unless she becomes eViL and we get a new rampant AI, but I don’t think this will happen.

 

[ELCHawk]

I gave it an 8. Lived that they gave Owo something to do. I wished they did that with all the bridge crew. I like Michael as a captain and love the character's growth. The only thing that alarmed me as a Discovery fan. I was a bit bummed that it wasn't more Prodigy.

 

[Finn]

I was a bit worried they were gonna claim that casino guy was a Talaxian---a 32nd century version...a bald one.

 

[Yistaan]

unless she becomes eViL and we get a new rampant AI, but I don’t think this will happen.

It will once they get to the part where craft dumps her

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

I'm glad that they gave Owo something to do as well, and I'm also glad they kept the other bridge crew off screen when they had nothing to do. I'd rather characters like Owo and Detmer were used more like Jett Reno is (or like Nog was on DS9), than as extras with way too much screen time. Or, even better, they could just make them main cast already!

 

[JoaquinSlowly]

It will once they get to the part where craft dumps her

The part that didn’t happen, because she sent Craft away to be with his wife and child?

 

[J. Frank Doobie]

Zora story is dullsville for me because we've had so much of that with Data

Yeah, I think "sentient AI" is always relevant, and it'd be neat to draw connections, with the crew learning all that's intervened with AIs in ... well, all Trek besides ENT. Hat tips to Data and Picard and the Borg and Seven and the EMH, etc. etc.

There's lots of directions to go (including many bad/boring/tired directions!), so I am a little puzzled why the show has kept it so far on the back burner.

Zora should also be a good opportunity for several characters to develop alongside --- I'd offer Culber (as counselor), Book (as an empath), Gray (as some familiar with going through a life transition), and/or Saru (also dealing with transitions and an established good listener) --- but again, puzzled why it's just been Michael, and even then not very much.

The technical and social implications of Zora's knowledge is massive, so maybe with 10C, Zora sees an expanding and potentially dangerous new frontier, and struggles before sharing world-changing knowledge with a recuperating Federation/Starfleet? FIngers crossed they're letting Zora simmer until she becomes central to next season?

 

[J. Frank Doobie]

Yeah, I think "sentient AI" is always relevant, and it'd be neat to draw connections, with the crew learning all that's intervened with AIs in ... well, all Trek besides ENT. Hat tips to Data and Picard and the Borg and Seven and the EMH, etc. etc.

There's lots of directions to go (including many bad/boring/tired directions!), so I am a little puzzled why the show has kept it so far on the back burner.

Zora should also be a good opportunity for several characters to develop alongside --- I'd offer Culber (as counselor), Book (as an empath), Gray (as some familiar with going through a life transition), and/or Saru (also dealing with transitions and an established good listener) --- but again, puzzled why it's just been Michael, and even then not very much.

The technical and social implications of Zora's knowledge is massive, so maybe with 10C, Zora sees an expanding and potentially dangerous new frontier, and struggles before sharing world-changing knowledge with a recuperating Federation/Starfleet? FIngers crossed they're letting Zora simmer until she becomes central to next season?

That said ... I do agree Zora has been mayor of Dullsville so far!

 

[fireproof78]

unless she becomes eViL and we get a new rampant AI, but I don’t think this will happen.

It won't.

 

[cooleddie74]

Zora has the potential to go in different directions but out-of-control HAL 9000 threat to the crew won't be one of them much less threaten the entire Federation.

 

[tomalak301]

To each their own, but the Zora story is dullsville for me because we've had so much of that with Data. And really, this is Star Trek, so there's only one route they can go with it. She's her own sentient, self-aware being with full rights and privileges. Done!

But I found those episodes to be the best episodes of the season because it felt like something Star Trek has always been good at, a morality play. The DMA plot has gotten stagnant right now, and having Burnham and Book meet up an episode immediately after Book escaped just all dramatic impact for me.

 

[fireproof78]

Zora has the potential to go in different directions but out-of-control HAL 9000 threat to the crew won't be one of them much less threaten the entire Federation.

She will just go off on her own.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

I want Zora to rise through the ranks now she's in Starfleet and eventually become the captain of her own ship. Somehow.

 

[Yistaan]

The part that didn’t happen, because she sent Craft away to be with his wife and child?

I mean I thought it was obvious my post was a joke.

Now that I think of it, as a cat lover if I were Book I'd be angsting over never seeing Grudge again. In fact, for a guy who lost everything, the prospect of losing Grudge too should have been enough to push Book not to go rogue.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

I think Grudge should be more concerned about never seeing Book again. He took that cat through all kinds of dangerous anomalies and space adventures, so leaving her behind now is a very bad sign.