Not sure why that matters.Let’s see … a sentient AI that poses a possible threat to the crew. That’s never been done before!
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 4x06 - "Stormy Weather"
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I re-watched "Calypso" last night (which makes SO much more sense now!) and I totally agree!
I watched the episode this morning and I really enjoyed it.
It was kind of nice to the see the big debate about whether or not to attack Species C-10, so many stories like this have the characters instantly set out to attack the other race, so it was nice to see Disco not go in that direction.
Some really interesting stuff with Zora too.
I gave it an 8.
It was kind of nice to the see the big debate about whether or not to attack Species C-10, so many stories like this have the characters instantly set out to attack the other race, so it was nice to see Disco not go in that direction.
Some really interesting stuff with Zora too.
I gave it an 8.
Wrong thread.
https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/star-trek-discovery-4x07-…but-to-connect.310098/
Can a mod needs to pin the correct one?
Woops, that's what I get for just seeing the 4 and assuming it was the right one.
Very late reply, but anyway... lol
This is like a thousand years later. How many people are reading Beowulf in the original Old English in their spare time?
Heck, how many people watched the Green Knight, which is a "friendly" translated version of the original poem?
Yes, people study the Classics and you can argue that Homer is still with us... but who is actually quoting Iliad in your life, unless they're that annoying person who thinks they're super smart because they can speak in Latin and you can't. lol
I totally understand that you can't invent a millennia of culture - they already try so hard with clothes, but you think about how much fashion has changed in the past 50 years from what we wear now and the bell bottoms and whatnot people wore in the 70s... there's no way that the clothes people wear in the future would even be recognizable to us. Even the fabric would presumably be different - I certainly hope we're not still wearing polyester a thousand years in the future.
But the flip side is, why not just take the Star Trek 09 tact and use modern/contemporary culture instead? There's no reason that Hip Hop or Rap isn't considered "Classical music" by that time either, particularly when you're talking about the 32nd century.
I know I am late to the party and it's probably been discussed somewhere in all of these pages, but why didn't burnham just have Zora transport her into the buffer like everyone else at the end?
and missing a chance to sacrifice herself for no reason at all?
Because someone had to stay with Zora as long as possible to keep her focused and talk her down if she started to freak out. Remember, it's not like Zora has had years of socialization and professional training to deal with her emotions -- she's the emotional equivalent of a toddler!
Even so, burnham could have been transported as soon as things got dangerous.
Zora was freezing up. Had Burnham left they would have died.
While leaving burham passed out and possibly dying…
Better than the whole crew.
…there is no reason she couldn’t be beamed out at that point. She was of no help once passed out. And surely Zora can understand that actually beaming her out of trouble and save her life might help more than sing to her while she burns.
I mean, again, Zora is coping with having emotions with zero training on how to deal with them. You and I had our entire childhoods and young adulthoods to train us on how to deal with them; Zora hasn't had that. She was probably too consumed with her own feelings to be capable of processing that idea. Her entire mental processing capacity was probably used up trying to deal with the combo of her own feelings, the process of getting the ship through the anomaly, and maintaining the rest of the crew.
Why do you say that? Zora was clearly struggling with a lot of input and the pain she was experiencing. This whole idea that Zora could make perfect decisions when she was clearly encountering sensory information new and potentially overwhelming to her strikes me as being in error. Zora's whole story is the struggle of being aware and sentient and uncertain.
Exactly. It strikes me as the usual idea that if the audience can sit there and go "Well, obviously the crew should just X,Y, and Z. The crew is stupid," without any acknowledgement that emotions can impact decision making ability.
Bah, yet she was perfectly able to steer the ship while watching Michael burn.
You keep denying the possibility of compromised cognition in an entity that had never had an emotional crisis before, and I don't follow why.
No, I don’t. I just find this whole episode incredibly badly written.
And, by the way, I guess burnham was compromised as well, or she could have thought of beaming out herself.
And the whole crew for not pointing out it was an option beforehand.
And, by the way, I guess burnham was compromised as well, or she could have thought of beaming out herself.
And the whole crew for not pointing out it was an option beforehand.
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