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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 4x06 - "Stormy Weather"

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We should just have a "no context" Linus page or a picture caption page for him
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But that misses the point. Humans communicate beyond scripts. Taking in little nods, glances and facial expressions are all a part of character moments and shouldn't be dismissed out of hand as to why the crew has a genuine connection. They have connected over several shared traumas? How is that less than the other crews just because we don't know every detail about the bridge crew members? I am trying to fathom this concept but I'll freely admit to struggling as to excusing one and dismissing the other. :wtf:

I'm not missing any point. I was talking about how the writers have underused or underdeveloped the characters. What the actors do, or might do, to make up for that, doesn't erase that the lack of the opportunities provided them in the writers' room. If anything, it reinforces that lack of attention.

We didn't know every detail of every bridge crew on other Treks either, but comparing Kurtzman Trek to Berman Trek it seems quite paltry, and that's left the DISCO writers to resorting to doing exposition dumps like with Rhys and Owo. I don't see how that's not apparent. I chalk it up to a matter of perception, but my focus has been on the writing and how its underserved the DISCO bridge crew. That said, the nods, glances, and facial expressions are not 'moments', they are gestures, and what they convey can be left up to interpretation far more than actual dialogue and more obvious physical actions.

As for the shared traumas, that's also the audience having to fill in the blanks about how the DISCO crew might bond over it all too often-it's not every case-I do think the writers haven't gotten better in the last two seasons exploring those kind of bonds-but I still think they could do more. There's too much of us the audience having to fill in the blanks or make assumptions.

That's not completely on the writers, and definitely not on the actors. The prior Trek series had 20 plus episodes a season, which gave them ample time to give supporting characters an episode or two (and even with all that time we still had some uneven character development), whereas DISCO has far less space/time to work with, and it also was more wedded to tightly constructed arcs, which put plot over character far too often (with Burnham's character growth being the biggest exception there).
 
That said, the nods, glances, and facial expressions are not 'moments', they are gestures, and what they convey can be left up to interpretation far more than actual dialogue and more obvious physical actions.

As for the shared traumas, that's also the audience having to fill in the blanks about how the DISCO crew might bond over it all too often-it's not every case-I do think the writers haven't gotten better in the last two seasons exploring those kind of bonds-but I still think they could do more. There's too much of us the audience having to fill in the blanks or make assumptions.
This is where perception indeed differs. This idea that the bridge crew is "underserved" is in error to me because the bridge crew is not there to be served. They are there to serve the moments of the story. To me they are doing that just fine and those "gestures" I consider moments. The fact that the audience is filling in the details shows engagement, but it isn't on the writing staff to fill out what the audience engages with.
 
Well episode finally showed up on Amazon UK today. Weird! Anyway I liked it. Good Trek vibe, most of the cast got something to do (Agree Owu's exposition felt clunky) Adira still feels like they have Tilly's scripts and giving Gray something to do felt incredibly forced, but overall very enjoyable.
 
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