Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 4x05 - "The Examples"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Commander Richard, Dec 15, 2021.

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    Quark's Treasure. Complete with no one having any idea who Quark is or why a subatomic particle would have a treasure.
     
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    I really enjoyed this episode. Burnham's words to the Akaali magistrate at the end were stone cold. Loved it.
     
  6. Captrek

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    That’s almost exactly what is happening now with the singular “they,” so if it’s a mess, it’s not much more of a mess than we already had.
     
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  8. KamenRiderBlade

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    I'm sure Disney would sue CBS because of that, so unlikely.

    Interesting

    Is that a reference to "The Queen's Gambit"?

    Against whom?

    Takara / Hasbro might not be happy with that name

    I have no idea why they would recycle this name.

    I like!
     
  9. fireproof78

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    How about "Book's ship?"
     
  10. The Rock

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    I find it interesting that Michael is so sympathetic with murderers. Would she feel the same about rapists or child molesters?
     
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    She should be unsympathetic? Why?
     
  12. The Rock

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    Would you sympathize with a rapist? A child molester?
     
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    Would you leave them to die?
     
  14. The Rock

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    No, but I wouldn't be nice and warm to them like Michael was.
     
  15. KamenRiderBlade

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    Different Captains & Crews have different views on Prisoners / Criminals.
     
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    exactly what I mean.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humour
    probably. But you can’t show it on a 21st century show, so the writers will not go there.
     
  17. Sci

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    If she believes in a restorative/rehabilitative justice model over a punitive justice model, she may well feel sympathetic to rapists or child molesters, particularly if they have received effective treatment, taken responsibility for their choices, and are making a genuine effort to change and atone for their crimes. Remember, in TOS "Dagger of the Mind," we learned that the Federation has embraced a rehabilitative model for its prisoners -- treating them as patients who need intensive mental and physical health care, rejecting cages in favor of "decent, clean hospitals for sick minds."
     
  18. jackoverfull

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    As it should be.
     
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    The best episode this year and better than anything last year (bar those two mu episodes) think Tillys absence made a big difference to be honest.
     
  20. Commander Troi

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    I'm boggled nobody has commented on this! I think this is a really neat idea and would bring all sorts of fun complications, especially with Stamets.

    ***HUGS*** to all of you.

    Wow. I knew about the language issue, but not the social part.

    Thank you for sharing that! I'm learning to ask people what they prefer.

    :crazy::crazy::crazy:

    I'd love if some of you would come over to this thread to talk about this. I think the OP doesn't realize how it is in different countries.
    https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/star-trek-is-not-and-never-was-particularly-progressive

    I love you folks. :lol: FWIW, I think @ToddCam has the clear winner here!
     
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