So what is standing in the way now?
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 4x04 - "All Is Possible"
- Thread starter Commander Richard
- Start date
Viewer hesitancy.
They're saving Sybok for Strange New Worlds. And as for Burnham, for all we know God sent the anomaly after her for that business of her foster brothers not giving him a starship.DSC won't even have Michael mention Sybok her adoptive half-brother so I doubt they'll recycle anything else from that film.
It’s best to think of TFF as a Romulan ale-triggered hallucinogenic dream.
Ah, you're the ghostwriter of the Autobiography of James T. Kirk I take it?It’s best to think of TFF as a Romulan ale-triggered hallucinogenic dream.
This book made the whole Star Trek 5 into a bad holofilm, and this take was fairly controversial among readers considering that Shatner, the portrayer of the character said book/autobiography was supposed to be about, directed the film. Not that it stopped Shatner from giving readings from the book anyway at conventions.
Finally, an enjoyable episode.
I really disliked season 3, and so far season 4 has been even worse. But All is Possible was pretty great.
I really disliked season 3, and so far season 4 has been even worse. But All is Possible was pretty great.
10 from me, my favorite episode of the season. This episode juggled an A/B/C story perfectly, and involved great character interactions across the board. I 100% accept and love Discovery as the Star Trek that does feelings right. Picard speeches about morality and justice, of course those are great. Sisko and company existing in grey areas? Also very much good. Janeway blowing shit up and doing the murder sometimes? Can't get enough! Those things will always be perfect from their respective shows, but Discovery absolutely shines in episodes like today's where we get political theater and suspenseful action not as the main features, but as framing devices for scenes about people just talking about how they can be better, and just about how they freaking feel. Followed by people who are actually listening, and together they grow. My favorite thing about modern Star Trek is how wonderfully it's learned to add emotional humanity into it's stories.
And now that this particular arc for Tilly has ended it looks like we've got Culber to figure out for the next therapy mini-arc, which I think is a great choice. I wasn't happy with him just *getting better* because the plot could no longer support his depression as a story thread. It appears they are bringing it back as him never truly dealing with it? This is the type of emotional character continuity I have always wanted in Trek. Devastating shit happening and it changing a character. Or at least enough so that we can make a story thread out of it. Bringing back Culber's PTSD and properly dealing with it is a must in a series about addressing with your past and discovery-ing your future. He had Miles O'brien level suffering, and as the guy who's helping everyone deal with their problems, he's got to deal with his eventually.
I've been shipping T'rina and Saru since last season and I am stoked for both of them right now. Absolutely too cute. Can't get enough of T'rina.
And now that this particular arc for Tilly has ended it looks like we've got Culber to figure out for the next therapy mini-arc, which I think is a great choice. I wasn't happy with him just *getting better* because the plot could no longer support his depression as a story thread. It appears they are bringing it back as him never truly dealing with it? This is the type of emotional character continuity I have always wanted in Trek. Devastating shit happening and it changing a character. Or at least enough so that we can make a story thread out of it. Bringing back Culber's PTSD and properly dealing with it is a must in a series about addressing with your past and discovery-ing your future. He had Miles O'brien level suffering, and as the guy who's helping everyone deal with their problems, he's got to deal with his eventually.
I've been shipping T'rina and Saru since last season and I am stoked for both of them right now. Absolutely too cute. Can't get enough of T'rina.
Chapter V: Tiberius in WonderlandAh, you're the ghostwriter of the Autobiography of James T. Kirk I take it?
The best plot point this year might be Culber counselling others as a means to escape his own emotional trauma.
“Somewhere along the line I thought that I could help myself by helping everyone else…”
I would not be surprised if they're saving Culber and his issues for when the 32nd century Klingons finally show up.
And as for T'Rina and Saru, well here's what would have happened realistically.
Saru: I would like you to teach me your ancient Vulcan meditation techniques.
T'Rina: And why are you asking me, of all people? Your longtime colleague Michael Burnham is a graduate of the Vulcan Science Academy and you could have asked her any time in all the years you've known her.
Saru: ...
T'Rina: That's what I thought. To quote Ambassador Spock, "If I were human, I believe my response to you would be 'Go to Hell!' ...If I were human."
Saru:
Pretty standard helping professional stuff.
It’s good that Trek is finally exploring this stuff meaningfully though. Hopefully they don’t throw it in the backseat like they did last season with Detmer.
I mean, yes and no. I love that they are but at the same time the slow thoughtful unpacking of trauma isn't always going to make the best drama in an ongoing series. I really appreciated what they did with Detmer last season, but it's never going to be a full unpack like I would expect.
I would expect a more thorough unwrapping this time around simply because Culber is a main character.
We’ll see where it takes us. The last two episodes have been written by two fairly new writers to the series … and they’ve been two of the best episodes of the series as well. Seems like there is a fairly significant tonal shift this season.
My guess is there will be a lot of reciprocity in terms of helping each other between Book, Stamets and Culber this season. At least that’s the way they’re setting it up so far.
There's a running theme of found families on Discovery, something increasingly common now. Some people have awful biological families and find new ones with friends. It's something the original series movies explored too with the crew's relationship and especially the one between Kirk and Spock.
Oh, Culber read up on B'Elanna's and Worf's holoprograms.
I wasn't a fan of this one. The Burnham to the rescue of all things is just too much. Thought the shuttle thing was way too cliched. I too used to be a Tilly fan, was fine seeing her leave. I kept waiting for them to get back to something on the anomaly and the we have to make it up that hill but lets stop for an icebreaker session was eye-rollingly bad.
While I know what you mean, if you're talking about dramatic potential in fiction, I do feel like nothing can really beat the complicated feelings we have about our parents, siblings, children, and other close relations. Interpersonal relationships are boring once they're happy and established, which is why almost every romantic "will they or won't they" dynamic is completely ruined if a dyad with mutual interest settles into being a happy, functional couple.
Similar threads
- Poll
- Poll
- Poll
