Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 4x01 - "Kobayashi Maru"

[fireproof78]

If DIS were the Saru, Stamets/Culver, Tilly show I would be right with you. Tig too, she doesn’t get anywhere near enough time.

I mean, those are strong characters. Burnham is just the one I most am invested in, followed by Saru then Tilly, then Detmer and Bryce.

 

[Go-Captain]

I mean, those are strong characters. Burnham is just the one I most am invested in, followed by Saru then Tilly, then Detmer and Bryce.

But hasn’t Bryce had maybe four lines of dialog in four seasons and the only time it’s remotely characterizing is S4E1? I’ve wanted him and other guy to have a personality for four seasons but of the five bridge people Owu has the only real background and the best bit is from season 2. She got more only because it was plot convenient.

 

[fireproof78]

But hasn’t Bryce had maybe four lines of dialog in four seasons and the only time it’s remotely characterizing is S4E1? I’ve wanted him and other guy to have a personality for four seasons but of the five bridge people Owu has the only real background and the best bit is from season 2. She got more only because it was plot convenient.

And? I don't equate number of lines to engagement. He's a character that I find engaging and interesting, as well as Rhys and Detmer. Hasn't changed since Season 1.

 

[jackoverfull]

Archer was not ignorant. He had experience with the race before, and knew they were easily offended, and still brought an animal along with them.

which is why I felt archer was incredibly stupid in that episode.

Detmer and Bryce.

I don’t even consider Bryce a character at this point...after 3 years we know less about him than of some of the redshirts of old.

 

[Garak234]

The President job is the leader of the Federation. Assigning crew to a ship would be under Starfleet’s jurisdiction. She would have more important things to do than that. Just felt a bit odd. That and her coming on board the ship without her own security detail.

This really felt like a Star Trek episode to me. Probably its weakest elements is that it had many multiple storylines, that focusing on one or two gives a story more room to breathe. I would give it a 7.5 (so rounded to an 8 for the poll).

After seeing what looked like a moon turning onto debris, I expected Book's planet to be seriously damaged, was surprised to see it the debris.

The Oort Cloud (though I need to rewatch and see if the station was on the outside of system or within one) comment didn't bother me anymore then anytime we see an Asteroid belt and dozens of asteroids all on the screen in close proximity to each other, when in fact their should be vast separation between them.

Was more baffled by how quick apparently Book's ship was able to get to Discovery, but I forgot it jumped though, I have to assume that Book's ship has the ability to locate Discovery since it made it on autopilot and he wouldn't know where it went or where it jumped to.

Now off to watch Prodigy

I don’t think that book has the resources to install a spore drive on his ship without UFP refitting, another possibility is that Book has a Telepathic link with Burnham alerting Book of her general location(this ability is seen with Burnham in S1 Discovery with Sarek, TOS Spock feels destruction of Vulcan ship and Burning Dreams novel, (along with Menagerie)(Talosians communicate with Spock Telepathically over long distances.

 

[cooleddie74]

I kind of like stupid Archer in some ways. It's 2151 or 2152 and these are some of the first humans to actually explore deep space. If an Earth Starfleet Captain 100 years before Christopher Pike isn't doing something incredibly dumb then part of the premise of the Prequel series is lost.

 

[Garak234]

‪‪I enjoyed it a great deal. I’m enjoying seeing Michael in the Captain’s chair, the whole crew working together, and I really loved seeing Saru and Su’kal on Kaminar, and the joint Kelpien/Ba’ul meeting.

Of course, I really feel for Book, what with Kwejian getting Krypton’d, and poor Kyheem & Leto have been Robert & René’d. Come to think of it, with Kwejian ‪‪shattered, and Book having previously said his empathic abilties were fairly rare in his species, it would seem possible if not probable that will make/keep Book and Stamets somewhat uniquely qualified to operate the Spore Drive.

‪‪I like the new President, she’s a politician through and through, but ‪‪I like way it seems like they’re setting up her dynamic with the crew of Discovery as the season progresses. ‪‪I have more thoughts, but it’s late and getting later.

‪‪I just wish fans everywhere were given an opportunity to enjoy it with those of us lucky enough to watch today.

It is unclear if Aenar, Talosians or Ocampa have the same abilities or not. (Vulcans we know don’t)

 

[fireproof78]

which is why I felt archer was incredibly stupid in that episode.

Indeed.

I don’t even consider Bryce a character at this point...after 3 years we know less about him than of some of the redshirts of old.

Mileage will vary. I like Bryce a lot.

 

[JoaquinSlowly]

It is unclear if Aenar, Talosians or Ocampa have the same abilities or not. (Vulcans we know don’t)

True, though Aurellio’s assessment included mentioning that Book’s abilties were unique even among other empathic species.

 

[DaveyNY]

yet in nemesis the portable transporter worked fine while the enterprise’s one was down.

Didn't Data & Geordi rig up something special in that instance?

 

[Tuskin38]

It is unclear if Aenar, Talosians or Ocampa have the same abilities or not. (Vulcans we know don’t)

Well, in A Taste of Armageddon, Spock was able to telepathically influence a guard who was on the other side of a door.

 

[cooleddie74]

And did the same a year later to the Kelvan Kelinda to get her to release them from their holding area.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Well, in A Taste of Armageddon, Spock was able to telepathically influence a guard who was on the other side of a door.

Didn’t he do it again with a Yang in “The Omega Glory”?

 

[JoaquinSlowly]

‪‪I don’t think all telepathic abilties translate to communing with the mycelial network, or the Federation wouldn’t have expressed such difficulty in replicating Stamets’s unique position until finding it worked for Book, and Aurellio wouldn’t have specified that his form of empathy differed from that of other species. They should have had extensive knowledge of Betazoids, Aenar, and Vulcans and their abilties, though the same knowledge about the Ocampa or the Talosians is not as much of a given for the Federation.

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

Didn't Data & Geordi rig up something special in that instance?

Probably ran a level 2 diagnostic and then realigned the defector

 

[Tuskin38]

Didn’t he do it again with a Yang in “The Omega Glory”?

I honestly don't recall.

 

[fireproof78]

Didn’t he do it again with a Yang in “The Omega Glory”?

He did. Through very intense eye contact.

 

[Noname Given]

Probably ran a level 2 diagnostic and then realigned the defector

Spock got Cloud Williams girlfriend how to flip open a communicator and Sulu and the Cavalry beam down.

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

Well, in A Taste of Armageddon, Spock was able to telepathically influence a guard who was on the other side of a door.

Not as odd as that brief time Riker was able to speak telepathically to Troi which seemed to get forgotten about after Farpoint

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Not as odd as that brief time Riker was able to speak telepathically to Troi which seemed to get forgotten about after Farpoint

Well to be fair, not a lot about Troi had been established at that point. So the writers probably just decided that she and Riker would never even NEED to speak telepathically, and just let it drop.

It's like her weird accent. TPTB didn't even know which of her parents would be the alien, until Lwaxana appeared, and obviously nobody's gonna tell Majel Barrett to use an accent. So that left Deanna's father. But by the time we meet HIM, he didn't have an accent either!