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Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 2x06 - "The Spy Humongous"

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Not bad at all. Prankcaling Armus raised the only real chuckle from me, but the story was sweet enough. Lower Decks is a really lovely little show. 20 odd minutes and done and generally sharp as a knife.
 
Exsqueeze me? "TNGeezer" - why you young whippersnapper... TNG came out when I was in coll....never mind. :lol:

I was in high school and dropped out of college when TNG was in first run syndication so same boat. I just mean especially in Youtube there is this certain sort Berman Fandamentalist that complains when there aren't references to former trek, complains when there are, "They've cheapened Yar's death!" as if it wasn't already a pretty empty death scene. In some ways they're less open to new ideas than TOS Fandamantalists. Those Old Church types only have three seasons to work with. They all have in common no sense of humor, so they try to taffy-pull some kind of serious show out of LD and are constantly disappointed.


The key message is: Pakleds aren't the galaxy's intellectual giants. :lol:
they'd like to model. or maybe act. or start a magazine. before they sign any contracts, they better learn to read
 
Janeway thing is easy for me to justify. It seems, based on what we've seen, Starfleet ships (or their crews) are lost all the time, often from strange space phenomena, and what happened to them isn't discovered for years or decades later. From Essex in the 22nd century, to ships like Discovery, Bozeman, Hera, Equinox, and of course Voyager itself, etc., the idea of space as a dangerous place where ships can just disappear, or be destroyed by random encounters with phenomena or hostile aliens would be with no explanation for a long time, if not ever, must be a pretty common thought.

Think about how, in 2374, at the time of the greatest threat to the existence of the Federation outside of the Borg, when the casualties were mounting, and the enemy seemed to be capable of generating new forces at a whim, and a core Federation world falls to this enemy (Betazed), morale would be very low, not only in Starfleet, but in the Federation at large. People would be desperate for a sign of hope.

Then you hear about how, one ship, thought lost three years ago, and whose crew were declared legally dead only months ago, turns up alive and making their way back. They're unthinkably distant, but the crew is mostly intact, and somehow they are not only more than 10,000 light years closer to home than they were first stranded, but have found a way to communicate with home, even if only temporarily. Even if it was classified (the circumstances about Prometheus would probably be, especially since the Romulans, potential allies in the Dominion War, were involved), the crew received letters from home, so the families of those who were missing, knew, and I would imagine keeping that secret would be near impossible. We know that it was an open secret by the time of "Author, Author".

As the news spreads, a lost ship surviving, questions about its survival would crop up. Knowledge would spread that Voyager's crew had expanded, absorbing a Maquis crew, natives to the region, and even liberating Borg! Voyager, despite being in the most horrible situation, where they must be constantly on edge, with no refuels or personnel replacements, was bringing the idealism of the Federation to the distant Delta Quadrant while also single-handedly fighting off Borg ships (after two battles with Borg destroyed dozens of ships before). It would be astounding to conceive of, and a beacon of hope.

And who led this amazing team of heroes that have survived so far away? Captain Kathryn Janeway. The name Janeway would be synonymous with leadership in times of crisis. "Can we survive this war?" "If Captain Janeway can keep her ship and crew alive and thriving with little more than the spirit of Starfleet and the Federation as a resource, you know we can!"

And then, three years later, Janeway brings her crew home. Mostly alive. Voyager intact. Two former Borg aboard. Only seven years after being lost 70,000 light years away. Who would get the credit? Sure, the ship's crew, but its leader would be the focal point of that fame. Captain Kathryn Janeway.

So, three years ago from the Lower Decks perspective, Janeway the amazing Starfleet hero, completed her monumental task, and members of her crew, like Tom Paris, are used to boost morale in general. Now think of how rumor would spread this idea and distort it among the local populations. Klingons, Romulans, Ferengi, Gorn, etc. Eventually getting into the ears of the Pakleds. Are they truly as stupid as they seem? I dunno, but if they are, I can easily see them confusing the legendary Janeway for any female captain, much like they confuse any singular Starfleet ship for Enterprise.

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But seriously, this would make a great epilogue for Voyager.
 
I was in high school and dropped out of college when TNG was in first run syndication so same boat. I just mean especially in Youtube there is this certain sort Berman Fandamentalist that complains when there aren't references to former trek, complains when there are, "They've cheapened Yar's death!" as if it wasn't already a pretty empty death scene. In some ways they're less open to new ideas than TOS Fandamantalists. Those Old Church types only have three seasons to work with. They all have in common no sense of humor, so they try to taffy-pull some kind of serious show out of LD and are constantly disappointed

I admit I got some old school schadenfreude from all of the Youtube critics delivering their bliserting hate on Lower Decks and a lot of their audience going, "Grow a sense of humor. It's a cartoon."

Lower Decks has landed much better with the Essentialists (DS9 deep cut) than DISCO and even Picard.
 
another possible explanation: they think janeway is part of the title, not a given name.

Notice how the emperor presented himself as “Pakled Emperor”, the king as “Pakled King” and the queen as “Pakled Queen”. A lot of emphasis on their title and the name isn’t even mentioned!
Good catch! I didn't think of that, but it makes a lot of sense. Not that the joke *needs* to make sense!

I was in high school and dropped out of college when TNG was in first run syndication so same boat. I just mean especially in Youtube there is this certain sort Berman Fandamentalist that complains when there aren't references to former trek, complains when there are, "They've cheapened Yar's death!" as if it wasn't already a pretty empty death scene. In some ways they're less open to new ideas than TOS Fandamantalists. Those Old Church types only have three seasons to work with. They all have in common no sense of humor, so they try to taffy-pull some kind of serious show out of LD and are constantly disappointed.
I dig. I'm 53 btw. And I like your metaphor. :lol:
 
The Acting Captain slot just appeared to be "person who takes over if the ranking officers aren't there until the next ranking shift officer takes over" - it would only even apply in a situation like this where Freeman and Ransom bunked off early for drinks. In an emergency (say all ranking bridge crew were dead or otherwise unable to act), Casey would be in charge by default anyway until a senior officer relieved him.

Makes you wonder why he considered it such a big deal.
 
Hilarious:
The invincible redshirts! "Excelsior!"
Funny that they still wanna figure out the crimson force field
Top secret Starfleet gift shop and high-security juice bar
The screaming goat slug!
"This isn't a friendship, it's a starship. Are you a star or not?"
The stars trying to solve a crisis by holding 3 speeches at the same time
You gotta specify lit candle temperatures?
Prank-calling Armus, who calls himself a skin of evil XD

But the 3 little pigs coming to life was too stupid. Otherwise, the best in this season so far!
 
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