My headcanon until they give an explanation is that Janeway was the one who was originally supposed to do the negotiations before they pawned it onto Freeman without her knowing that it was considered beneath the Admiral.
Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 2x06 - "The Spy Humongous"
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Maybe but they know her as Captain Janeway.
Well, they may know who she is but they obviously have no idea what she looks like.
Actually, they have no idea.. period.
Some of them did the the Enterprise and these ones still don't know the difference
Some of them did the the Enterprise and these ones still don't know the difference
Yes, "the crimson force field".
Mariner vs the anomalies and Armus being pranked made this show enjoyable for me. I can only shrug at the Pakled plot.
New head canon: what we’re watching are historical documents produced by the federation. They are somewhat realistic but differences in production choices explain why things look contradictory at times.
The Pakled got their hands on the Voyager documentaries, with the obvious results.
this.
The show is operating under the assumption that every single character on the show has seen every single episode of Star Trek.
Janeway thing is easy for me to justify. It seems, based on what we've seen, Starfleet ships (or their crews) are lost all the time, often from strange space phenomena, and what happened to them isn't discovered for years or decades later. From Essex in the 22nd century, to ships like Discovery, Bozeman, Hera, Equinox, and of course Voyager itself, etc., the idea of space as a dangerous place where ships can just disappear, or be destroyed by random encounters with phenomena or hostile aliens would be with no explanation for a long time, if not ever, must be a pretty common thought.
Think about how, in 2374, at the time of the greatest threat to the existence of the Federation outside of the Borg, when the casualties were mounting, and the enemy seemed to be capable of generating new forces at a whim, and a core Federation world falls to this enemy (Betazed), morale would be very low, not only in Starfleet, but in the Federation at large. People would be desperate for a sign of hope.
Then you hear about how, one ship, thought lost three years ago, and whose crew were declared legally dead only months ago, turns up alive and making their way back. They're unthinkably distant, but the crew is mostly intact, and somehow they are not only more than 10,000 light years closer to home than they were first stranded, but have found a way to communicate with home, even if only temporarily. Even if it was classified (the circumstances about Prometheus would probably be, especially since the Romulans, potential allies in the Dominion War, were involved), the crew received letters from home, so the families of those who were missing, knew, and I would imagine keeping that secret would be near impossible. We know that it was an open secret by the time of "Author, Author".
As the news spreads, a lost ship surviving, questions about its survival would crop up. Knowledge would spread that Voyager's crew had expanded, absorbing a Maquis crew, natives to the region, and even liberating Borg! Voyager, despite being in the most horrible situation, where they must be constantly on edge, with no refuels or personnel replacements, was bringing the idealism of the Federation to the distant Delta Quadrant while also single-handedly fighting off Borg ships (after two battles with Borg destroyed dozens of ships before). It would be astounding to conceive of, and a beacon of hope.
And who led this amazing team of heroes that have survived so far away? Captain Kathryn Janeway. The name Janeway would be synonymous with leadership in times of crisis. "Can we survive this war?" "If Captain Janeway can keep her ship and crew alive and thriving with little more than the spirit of Starfleet and the Federation as a resource, you know we can!"
And then, three years later, Janeway brings her crew home. Mostly alive. Voyager intact. Two former Borg aboard. Only seven years after being lost 70,000 light years away. Who would get the credit? Sure, the ship's crew, but its leader would be the focal point of that fame. Captain Kathryn Janeway.
So, three years ago from the Lower Decks perspective, Janeway the amazing Starfleet hero, completed her monumental task, and members of her crew, like Tom Paris, are used to boost morale in general. Now think of how rumor would spread this idea and distort it among the local populations. Klingons, Romulans, Ferengi, Gorn, etc. Eventually getting into the ears of the Pakleds. Are they truly as stupid as they seem? I dunno, but if they are, I can easily see them confusing the legendary Janeway for any female captain, much like they confuse any singular Starfleet ship for Enterprise.
Think about how, in 2374, at the time of the greatest threat to the existence of the Federation outside of the Borg, when the casualties were mounting, and the enemy seemed to be capable of generating new forces at a whim, and a core Federation world falls to this enemy (Betazed), morale would be very low, not only in Starfleet, but in the Federation at large. People would be desperate for a sign of hope.
Then you hear about how, one ship, thought lost three years ago, and whose crew were declared legally dead only months ago, turns up alive and making their way back. They're unthinkably distant, but the crew is mostly intact, and somehow they are not only more than 10,000 light years closer to home than they were first stranded, but have found a way to communicate with home, even if only temporarily. Even if it was classified (the circumstances about Prometheus would probably be, especially since the Romulans, potential allies in the Dominion War, were involved), the crew received letters from home, so the families of those who were missing, knew, and I would imagine keeping that secret would be near impossible. We know that it was an open secret by the time of "Author, Author".
As the news spreads, a lost ship surviving, questions about its survival would crop up. Knowledge would spread that Voyager's crew had expanded, absorbing a Maquis crew, natives to the region, and even liberating Borg! Voyager, despite being in the most horrible situation, where they must be constantly on edge, with no refuels or personnel replacements, was bringing the idealism of the Federation to the distant Delta Quadrant while also single-handedly fighting off Borg ships (after two battles with Borg destroyed dozens of ships before). It would be astounding to conceive of, and a beacon of hope.
And who led this amazing team of heroes that have survived so far away? Captain Kathryn Janeway. The name Janeway would be synonymous with leadership in times of crisis. "Can we survive this war?" "If Captain Janeway can keep her ship and crew alive and thriving with little more than the spirit of Starfleet and the Federation as a resource, you know we can!"
And then, three years later, Janeway brings her crew home. Mostly alive. Voyager intact. Two former Borg aboard. Only seven years after being lost 70,000 light years away. Who would get the credit? Sure, the ship's crew, but its leader would be the focal point of that fame. Captain Kathryn Janeway.
So, three years ago from the Lower Decks perspective, Janeway the amazing Starfleet hero, completed her monumental task, and members of her crew, like Tom Paris, are used to boost morale in general. Now think of how rumor would spread this idea and distort it among the local populations. Klingons, Romulans, Ferengi, Gorn, etc. Eventually getting into the ears of the Pakleds. Are they truly as stupid as they seem? I dunno, but if they are, I can easily see them confusing the legendary Janeway for any female captain, much like they confuse any singular Starfleet ship for Enterprise.
Why would he be? I'm pretty sure they left a warning beacon around the planet at the end of the episode.
Huh? I'm confused. I love TNG and thought the Armus gag was awesome.
Exsqueeze me? "TNGeezer" - why you young whippersnapper... TNG came out when I was in coll....never mind.
I like all 3. ::raising flameproof shields:::
To that I usually say, "What show have *you* been watching? Star Trek has always been like this!"
They had a freakin' Space Parade probably with space fireworks no less, the day Voyager returned to Federation Space and Earth's orbit.
It was most likley broadcast across the entire Federation by the CNN Galactic news service for the next several weeks.
Not hard to figure out how the Pakleds might have garnered that info.
It was most likley broadcast across the entire Federation by the CNN Galactic news service for the next several weeks.
Not hard to figure out how the Pakleds might have garnered that info.
And since they're not terribly bright they just call every Starfleet captain and ship they run into as "Janeway" and "Enterprise." They probably understand on a deeper level that Janeway is just one commanding officer out of many but with their speech patterns they refer to anyone in a Starfleet uniform with a Captain's rank or higher "Janeway."
So what will we see Pakleds calling Starfleet mail captains?
Will it be "Kirk", "Picard" or "Riker"?
(Also given that Mike McMahan probably knows Patrick Stewart has done voiceover work for Family Guy and American Dad; I'm really surprised he hasn't tried to tap him for a cameo in this series yet.)
obviously not: see all the times one character has to explain a trek detail to another character!
another possible explanation: they think janeway is part of the title, not a given name.
Notice how the emperor presented himself as “Pakled Emperor”, the king as “Pakled King” and the queen as “Pakled Queen”. A lot of emphasis on their title and the name isn’t even mentioned!
The key message is: Pakleds aren't the galaxy's intellectual giants.
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