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Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 2x04 - "Mugato, Gumato"

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HILLARIOUS! And of COURSE Mariner is an awesome, kick-ass, at Ambo-Jitsu (as she as at EVERYTHING else) I mean, this show is just fantastic!

Honestly, these past two episodes are all about how Mariner is actually terrible at anything other than hurting things.

She should be in security but she is in Command for no reason other than her parents.
 
People seem to forget that this is a cartoon. In cartoons, people get beat-up crushed under a rock or a piano and they're fine the next scene.
People are not forgetting it's a cartoon. There is just a very narrow criteria for Star Trek and there is no room for pedestrian humor or unprofessional characters. Star Trek must always strive for TWOK or City on the Edge of Forever style greatness or it is unworthy.

Tongue partially in cheek. Lower Decks is certainly not above criticism but some are quite ridiculous for what presents itself as a comedy.
 
No one died on Archer's Enterprise until the third season. Is that a cartoon?

No one among the main cast but there are plenty who've died on the worlds they visited. Like In "Dear Doctor", the ironically named, where Phlox decides that "evolution" has decided that he shouldn't help people that were dying by the millions even if he found a cure for their illness. Kinda weird. I mean why was he even trying to find a cure, to begin with? My guess is for the satisfaction of letting people die while withholding the power that would allow him to save them... Sounds like a villain, doesn't it?

Speaking of which I never realized that we were seeing Debobulans until they inflated their faces like blowfish.
 
No one among the main cast but there are plenty who've died on the worlds they visited. Like In "Dear Doctor", the ironically named, where Phlox decides that "evolution" has decided that he shouldn't help people that were dying by the millions even if he found a cure for their illness. Kinda weird. I mean why was he even trying to find a cure, to begin with? My guess is for the satisfaction of letting people die while withholding the power that would allow him to save them... Sounds like a villain, doesn't it?

Speaking of which I never realized that we were seeing Debobulans until they inflated their faces like blowfish.

Let's give credit where credit is due, Phlox hoped the alien Black Death would result in the destruction of the race's ruling class and the rise of the underprivileged people living in squalor on the other continent. Who knew that Phlox was a revolutionary anti-capitalist who wanted the rich to be slaughtered? Apparently not the writers.

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But, seriously, Old Trekkie, I hope you realize no one is taking Lower Decks' zanniness seriously because...it's a cartoon.

And that it is BETTER to be zanny than just animated Star Trek live action.
 
Let's give credit where credit is due, Phlox hoped the alien Black Death would result in the destruction of the race's ruling class and the rise of the underprivileged people living in squalor on the other continent. Who knew that Phlox was a revolutionary anti-capitalist who wanted the rich to be slaughtered? Apparently not the writers.

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But, seriously, Old Trekkie, I hope you realize no one is taking Lower Decks' zanniness seriously because...it's a cartoon.

And that it is BETTER to be zanny than just animated Star Trek live action.

Yes, it's zany. I'll give you that.
 
And even if the show is a "cartoon", what are the it? It's no more or less a legitimate form of Storytelling than live action. To state that something is less just because it is animated is arrogance with no basis in reality.
 
It is kind of fun to imagine how much of this zaniness would be kept if the characters would make a live action appearance in, say.. Picard.
In theory, they could also turn up in a holo novel adventure in Discovery.
Hell, Discovery could even keep the cartoon format by doing a Who framed Roger Rabbit style holo program.
 
It is kind of fun to imagine how much of this zaniness would be kept if the characters would make a live action appearance in, say.. Picard.
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Before they could do that they would have to cast a slew of acceptable lookalikes... That could take some doing.

Not to mention that they would have to dub them all with the voices of the voice actors.
 
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