Spoilers Strange New Worlds General Discussion Thread

[Orphalesion]

did the kelvin bridge look simple/substandard/60s to you? did the nx-01, or the SG-1 battlecruiser?

What are you even quacking about here? The Kelvin bridge looked just as different from the 1960s version as the bridge seen in in DSIC

or, just perhaps, this is about the ship itself, established features inside and outside, and not about whether the pictures are glued on... has that occurred to you? XD

Again. The ship and the bridge look similar enough. Just updated for the 2020s. You can't make them look like the 60s versions.

 

[The Wormhole]

People treat Kurztman (and Abrams by extension) as though they just walked in to Star Trek with a wrecking ball and that everyone before then had complete respect for how past material was treated.

And now you've got me imagining a naked Kurtzman hanging from a wrecking ball swinging around the TOS bridge.

Okay, on a more serious note related to the point you were making, I'd like to point out the error of those who i see going on about how the Berman era "made great efforts" to maintain a consistent look to the franchise which the Abrams movies and now the CBSAA shows have abandoned. The Berman era wasn't "making an effort" to be consistent, it was just budgetarily expedient for them to since they were reusing the same sets and props that had been around since the start of TNG, and in some cases since TMP. Indeed, look at Nemesis, which had to create new sets for certain Enterprise E interiors which had been redresses of Voyager sets in the previous movies, but with Voyager ended and the sets torn down, new sets had to be built. Which not only look completely different from what we saw previously, don't even match the aesthetic of the Berman era or match the other sets for the Enterprise E which were kept the same from the prior movies.

 

[Tuskin38]

I don't think they've said when this series starts.

I imagine it will be after Season 2 of DSC.

 

[CorporalClegg]

I think it would be fun if they picked up the pilot right where Q&A left off. Then they work up to Cage for like season 2 or 3 or whatever finale. But do a whole Lower Decks style episode that takes place during the titular events.

 

[Skywalker]

Didn't The Cage take place a few years prior to DSC? Spock and Michael even visited Talos in season 2.

 

[CorporalClegg]

Yes but Q&A was set during Spock's first day on the job.

 

[Skywalker]

True. Was your mention of Q&A always there? If so, somehow I completely missed it.

 

[fireproof78]

True. Was your mention of Q&A always there? If so, somehow I completely missed it.

Yup...

I think it would be fun if they picked up the pilot right where Q&A left off.

 

[Skywalker]

Yup...

Yeah, but if you're quick enough, you can edit a post without it showing as being edited.

I probably just totally missed it, though. I'm pretty tired.

 

[NCC-73515]

What are you even quacking about here? The Kelvin bridge looked just as different from the 1960s version as the bridge seen in in DSIC

Again. The ship and the bridge look similar enough. Just updated for the 2020s. You can't make them look like the 60s versions.

1. tune down the attitude
2. the kelvin bridge, like the kelvin itself, was the closest we got to the TOS look while keeping it in line with the ENT designs
3. does a smaller neck mean more 2020s? does a slit angled pylon mean 2020s, and a straight uncut one says 1960s? do the number and complexity of bridge stations mean 1960s or 2020s?
4. or if it's not about buttons, stations, or pylons - what makes it 2020s or 1960s to you?

And now you've got me imagining a naked Kurtzman hanging from a wrecking ball swinging around the TOS bridge.

Okay, on a more serious note related to the point you were making, I'd like to point out the error of those who i see going on about how the Berman era "made great efforts" to maintain a consistent look to the franchise which the Abrams movies and now the CBSAA shows have abandoned. The Berman era wasn't "making an effort" to be consistent, it was just budgetarily expedient for them to since they were reusing the same sets and props that had been around since the start of TNG, and in some cases since TMP. Indeed, look at Nemesis, which had to create new sets for certain Enterprise E interiors which had been redresses of Voyager sets in the previous movies, but with Voyager ended and the sets torn down, new sets had to be built. Which not only look completely different from what we saw previously, don't even match the aesthetic of the Berman era or match the other sets for the Enterprise E which were kept the same from the prior movies.

weren't the TOS sets recreated from scratch for DS9 and ENT? Voyager and Ent-E sets are from the same design era, so there's no problem there. How do they look "completely different" and "don't match"?

bottom line:
if they have a refit at the end of the show that brings things back to the repeatedly established designs even just in the last scene, your points about it being fine for just one episode like in DS9 or ENT will be fulfilled, consistency is achieved, and they can use their pre-refit designs for the rest of the show.

 

[The Wormhole]

Voyager and Ent-E sets are from the same design era, so there's no problem there. How do they look "completely different" and "don't match"?

You seriously don't see it? It was one of the more frequent complaints at the time Nemesis was released.

Enterprise E sickbay from First Contact
Enterprise E sickbay from Nemesis

Are you seriously going to tell me those look similar or consistent?

 

[fireproof78]

You seriously don't see it? It was one of the more frequent complaints at the time Nemesis was released.

Enterprise E sickbay from First Contact
Enterprise E sickbay from Nemesis

Are you seriously going to tell me those look similar or consistent?

It's acceptable because it was "refit" or some other such nonsense excuse to accept some interpretations while rejecting others.

 

[NCC-73515]

You seriously don't see it? It was one of the more frequent complaints at the time Nemesis was released.

Enterprise E sickbay from First Contact
Enterprise E sickbay from Nemesis

Are you seriously going to tell me those look similar or consistent?

Beds are beds, both look 2360-70s, LCARS is the same, wall panels with pill stickers in both, medical symbol is the same... what do you see as radically different, so radical in fact that it looks like a different era, or even century?

 

[fireproof78]

The walls.

 

[CorporalClegg]

They fell.

 

[WarpFactorZ]

Darmok and Jalad at the medical bay.

 

[The Wormhole]

Beds are beds, both look 2360-70s, LCARS is the same, wall panels with pill stickers in both, medical symbol is the same... what do you see as radically different, so radical in fact that it looks like a different era, or even century?

I didn't say different era or century, but it's not consistent with the old sets, or with the Enterprise E's other interiors which were kept from the prior movies.

 

[NCC-73515]

I didn't say different era or century, but it's not consistent with the old sets, or with the Enterprise E's other interiors which were kept from the prior movies.

Every room looks different - how is the bridge consistent with engineering, or with various quarters?
Look at Picard's vs. Data's quarters on the D for a great example XD

 

[DEWLine]

@Lord Garth and @fireproof78 both have a truth identified here.

 

[F. King Daniel]

I didn't say different era or century, but it's not consistent with the old sets, or with the Enterprise E's other interiors which were kept from the prior movies.

I thought the Enterprise had multiple sickbays, or at least a large sickbay complex the parts we saw on the TV shows were only a small fraction of.