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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x13 - "That Hope Is You, Part 2"
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Well, you and everyone else in the Zoom Sessions know what I think about what's going on right now.
I think the fourth season of DSC can go somewhere with the topic of Domestic Terror. In fact, I'd like if the next enemy, if not the Emerald Chain, would be some segment of the rest of the 90% of the Federation that Starfleet Command has lost communication with. Not all 90%, naturally, but some part of it. The enemy isn't out there, but right here.
I was upset to see Osyraa die (of course being the future who knows what kind of technology possibly duplicate/subspace memory transfer may exist) but I don't really like how everything had to be tied up just because of the end of season.
For most of the season I kind of viewed her as more or less a generic villain... But the negotiating with Vance actually showed a different side of her and I thought we might actually see character development as the show progressed and a more nuanced foil. I guess hoping to see a multi-seasonal development like Dukat or Damar was expecting way too much for Discovery though.
For most of the season I kind of viewed her as more or less a generic villain... But the negotiating with Vance actually showed a different side of her and I thought we might actually see character development as the show progressed and a more nuanced foil. I guess hoping to see a multi-seasonal development like Dukat or Damar was expecting way too much for Discovery though.
she may be dead but I really doubt we are done with the Emerald Chain. Could be we end up with a more charismatic villain.
I get the impression a lot of this was written when they weren't sure if they'd be getting a fourth season, and by the time they found out I guess it was too far along in production.
That said I fully expect Osiraa to show up again with "what, you didn't think I'd at least have a backup plan?"
Or a clone.
Mmhhh...hey look, TOS music!
yes, but only affects ships with an active warp core. Have your ships power down the core, do Burn 2.0 and you have a fleet, the others don’t.
When you are a stars your music can become hits even when they blow.
Thought the same. Reality needs better writers.
or a sinth. Would explain the plastic.
I think this might have already been hinted at with the mention of Deep Space 253 in 'There is a tide'. Federation HQ had no contact with DS253 for 87 years but the station was freely trading with the Emerald Chain despite probably being aware of its various crimes. No doubt a few Starfleet commanding officers became laws unto themselves. I reckon there are going to be a lot of Colonel Kurtz's out there.
Yeah we all know what the actual reason is. 'Because it's a TV show' is the actual reason for every question, but it makes for a poor Star Trek discussion board doesn't it?
Your right. That little Kelpian is the 32nd century atom bomb
That kind of Trump style storytelling „because I said so“ over on screen logic and facts is the one constant through all three seasons.
I'm not going to pretend that Discovery doesn't occasionally employ some ridiculous plot devices, but that's a gross mischaracterisation and somewhat inappropriate given recent events.
A ship's interior having vast internal areas, where turbolifts intersected with vast docking/storage/engineering areas were much better conveyed in The Motion Picture (but the interior of the Discovery's nacelle seemed more realistically scaled and canonical).
Oh well, the internal machinery areas of Discovery resembling Mega City One could be chalked up to the 31st refit adding a 4th dimension to the vessel's internal volumes, though it would've made tons more sense the turbolift shafts resembled subway tunnels (it's artistic license and SFX marching ahead of coherency).
Overall I give the final episode a 7.5/10 with Ozyraa's rash final actions mostly being the result of her fragile ego being crushed by Admiral Vance's rebuff rather than the Burnham effect, and the Kelpian mission with Su'Kal still has a lot of missing pieces and has "Sinister Black Project Backfiring" all over it, IMO (the Kelpian "golden child" being very psychically powerful didn't seem an accident. Why the elaborate, vast science vessel built around him? Why send a pregnant mother to such a dangerous world?).
I'm looking forward to Season 4 now that we've got a pretty clean slate, with likeable supporting characters like Admiral Vance and Booker. If I wanted to watch a show where the characters were uniformally unlikeable with the plotting and events making no sense, I'd watch Ozark.
Oh well, the internal machinery areas of Discovery resembling Mega City One could be chalked up to the 31st refit adding a 4th dimension to the vessel's internal volumes, though it would've made tons more sense the turbolift shafts resembled subway tunnels (it's artistic license and SFX marching ahead of coherency).
Overall I give the final episode a 7.5/10 with Ozyraa's rash final actions mostly being the result of her fragile ego being crushed by Admiral Vance's rebuff rather than the Burnham effect, and the Kelpian mission with Su'Kal still has a lot of missing pieces and has "Sinister Black Project Backfiring" all over it, IMO (the Kelpian "golden child" being very psychically powerful didn't seem an accident. Why the elaborate, vast science vessel built around him? Why send a pregnant mother to such a dangerous world?).
I'm looking forward to Season 4 now that we've got a pretty clean slate, with likeable supporting characters like Admiral Vance and Booker. If I wanted to watch a show where the characters were uniformally unlikeable with the plotting and events making no sense, I'd watch Ozark.
Yeah, it's becoming pretty clear that at least part of the intention behind the jump to the 32nd century was to get clear of a lot of the baggage of earlier series, gain the freedom to do much more with the setting, and not have to worry so much about continuity. Even if the show has always had a pretty flexible view of continuity.
No, Dorothy's house fell on her.
That's just Wicked
I think the explanation is supposed to be that, In the same way that The Burn traveled through subspace; the song, which was the lullaby sung by his mother to him when she was alive; was somehow being propagated through subspace subconsciously and telepathically by Su' Kal his entire life.
That was why everyone in the Galaxy knew it.
Alternately, in true X-Files style, it simply was nothing but a common little diddly, just like Willa said. Perhaps brought to synchronized prominence by another bored-out-of-his-circuits Zora relative, just like Buster Keaton movies. Or then simply popular for the past five centuries, having spread before the Burn. Sometimes a coincidence is a coincidence, and that if anything is oooooominous...
(Basically, the whole planet here knew "Shave-and-a-haircut, two times!" long before Roger Rabbit put the lyrics to it, but those who could have suggested an origin would have been few and far in between indeed.)
Timo Saloniemi
(Basically, the whole planet here knew "Shave-and-a-haircut, two times!" long before Roger Rabbit put the lyrics to it, but those who could have suggested an origin would have been few and far in between indeed.)
Timo Saloniemi
