If they actually keep their show-runners for longer than half a season, there’s a good chance that might happen!
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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x05 - "Die Trying"
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My thoughts:
* I'm surprised that the fact that Covich (David Cronenberg) and Georgiou's conversation about Terran-Vulcan First Contact was a direct reference to In a Mirror Darkly, Part 1's teaser, which depicted that very event, hasn't been part of the discussions on the episode that I've seen
* I'm 99.9% positive that Nhan will be back before the end of the season
* I get Admiral Vance's caution, but he didn't need to be such a dick at the start of the episode
* I hadn't made a connection between the 'shared melody' plot thread introduced here and the 'All Along the Watchtower' plot from BSG until it was brought up on every single DSC podcast I listen to, but I think it's neat that a show that was intentionally designed to be as antithetical to Star Trek as possible has ended up influencing Star Trek at least in part
* Why didn't Saru press harder for news about Kaminar?
* I don't think Vance is going to part with Willa even though I've seen some speculation that she'll join the Discovery's crew; however, I wouldn't be surprised if we do see a 31st Century Starfleet officer assigned to the ship
* I'd be very surprised if Covich and whatever he did to Georgiou isn't connected to Michelle Yeoh's starring role in the Section 31 series
* Willa's reaction to the Mycelium Gang's functional disfunction was great. I do think Jett was just disagreeing to prove Stamets' point rather than actually disagreeing with him, though, which is new
* I'm surprised that the fact that Covich (David Cronenberg) and Georgiou's conversation about Terran-Vulcan First Contact was a direct reference to In a Mirror Darkly, Part 1's teaser, which depicted that very event, hasn't been part of the discussions on the episode that I've seen
* I'm 99.9% positive that Nhan will be back before the end of the season
* I get Admiral Vance's caution, but he didn't need to be such a dick at the start of the episode
* I hadn't made a connection between the 'shared melody' plot thread introduced here and the 'All Along the Watchtower' plot from BSG until it was brought up on every single DSC podcast I listen to, but I think it's neat that a show that was intentionally designed to be as antithetical to Star Trek as possible has ended up influencing Star Trek at least in part
* Why didn't Saru press harder for news about Kaminar?
* I don't think Vance is going to part with Willa even though I've seen some speculation that she'll join the Discovery's crew; however, I wouldn't be surprised if we do see a 31st Century Starfleet officer assigned to the ship
* I'd be very surprised if Covich and whatever he did to Georgiou isn't connected to Michelle Yeoh's starring role in the Section 31 series
* Willa's reaction to the Mycelium Gang's functional disfunction was great. I do think Jett was just disagreeing to prove Stamets' point rather than actually disagreeing with him, though, which is new
Jett has quickly become one of my Star Trek favorites. She is hilarious. Her deadpan delivery dripping in sarcasm hits me just right.
I'm glad she made the trip to the future.
If Adm Vance is very by the book, Willa CANNOT go back with Discovery, as that would be putting someone with 31st Century knowledge into the past. He seems to adhere to the New Temporal Accords. HOWEVER, if they are staying in 31C, of course he would assign someone to Discovery, but his (StarFleet/Fed) security chief, probably not. UNLESS they are unexpectedly pulled back to their own time with Willa onboard overseeing a mission.
Humanity managed, so why can't they after 800 years?
The Klingons were often on the verge of civil war and were a brutal, militaristic society. How they survived long enough to become one of the great Alpha Quadrant powers is also a mystery but here we are.
Treks like a drug though.
I hated season 1 and gave up on the show but then PIC got me really excited so I gave season 2 a chance and loved the red angel mystery until it was solved and I again fell out with DIS. But then lockdown and a big Trek rewatch followed by LD got me excited again and with F all good sci-fi around I again got excited for DIS and again loved it until ep 5
Yeah I love her humor and the moment she is on screen my wife and I are starting to smile
I'm curious as to why you think the Discovery crew will be going back to the 23rd Century?
Is it not enough that ALL of the Producers have said that that is not going to happen?
No, it's not enough. The producers are proven to be liars, complicit in the destruction of Star Trek and undoing all things that are good in this world...I'm curious as to why you think the Discovery crew will be going back to the 23rd Century?
Is it not enough that ALL of the Producers have said that that is not going to happen?
I'm joking about the last two...maybe.
I'm curious as to why you think the Discovery crew will be going back to the 23rd Century?
Is it not enough that ALL of the Producers have said that that is not going to happen?
I must be out of the loop. I really didn't see/hear/read that from the producers.
As a series, Discovery is never going back to telling stories in the 23rd Century.
https://www.indiewire.com/2020/10/s...-all-post-production-done-at-home-1234593367/
Discovery will be set in the 32nd Century for the rest of the series. Quoting a chunk of the interview below...
I've found IndieWire and Alex Kurtzman himself to both be very reliable sources.
Apparently they have to stop in the 31st Century, first.I'm curious as to why you think the Discovery crew will be going back to the 23rd Century?
Is it not enough that ALL of the Producers have said that that is not going to happen?
It's Strange New Worlds' job now to take a cannon to canon, including the revelation that Pike created a transporter double just before his promotion to fleet captain to carry on in his place and get injured, while he himself went into hiding on Orion.
Pike also ordered a "retro fashion" interior designer to redesign not just the Enterprise, but all Constitution class ships (as seen in the Defiant for example) as a slam against Kirk, who he disapproved of as a successor for cheating on the Kobayashi Maru (in fact James Kirk's father George Kirk, in a special appearance by Chris Hemsworth in old age makeup, used sleazy backdoor deals and Starfleet corruption to get his son the job, adding a horrific new light on James Kirk claiming to owe his Starfleet career to his father).
Ahh, well, that does explain it.
Let's hope.
There's no 'hoping'; the question of the series' setting is a closed matter.
The 32nd Century is where the series will stay for as long as it remains on the air.
Responding to something from earlier now that I'm back in a sober state (long story relating to Real Life)...
What you're describing is "In the Middle". I felt the same way about Voyager. For every bad episode there were two okay ones and sometimes a really good one. Then there'd be one that was so bad that I'd think, "Why the Hell am I watching this?!" By the summer of 1999, after the end of the fifth season, it added up to be too much, where I decided, "Forget it! I'll watch the episodes Ron Moore did (during his grand total of three episodes on the show), then I'm done!" And so it was.
But before I got to that point, there were five seasons of a very mixed bag. Now I know which episodes to skip but it was very frustrating when the series was first airing and I didn't know what to expect quality-wise. Even more frustrating when it looked like they were on a roll and then a piece of shit completely undid it.
After that experience, I decided to never give a series I was either only so-so on or outright didn't like that long of a leash ever again. If it's not grabbing me, I'm out. "The End!" I figured this out when I was 20. So it amazes me when people who are much older than I was either don't or won't. That's why I get it but I don't get it, at the same time.
What you're describing is "In the Middle". I felt the same way about Voyager. For every bad episode there were two okay ones and sometimes a really good one. Then there'd be one that was so bad that I'd think, "Why the Hell am I watching this?!" By the summer of 1999, after the end of the fifth season, it added up to be too much, where I decided, "Forget it! I'll watch the episodes Ron Moore did (during his grand total of three episodes on the show), then I'm done!" And so it was.
But before I got to that point, there were five seasons of a very mixed bag. Now I know which episodes to skip but it was very frustrating when the series was first airing and I didn't know what to expect quality-wise. Even more frustrating when it looked like they were on a roll and then a piece of shit completely undid it.
After that experience, I decided to never give a series I was either only so-so on or outright didn't like that long of a leash ever again. If it's not grabbing me, I'm out. "The End!" I figured this out when I was 20. So it amazes me when people who are much older than I was either don't or won't. That's why I get it but I don't get it, at the same time.
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