Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x05 - "Die Trying"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Commander Richard, Nov 11, 2020.

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  1. Ar-Pharazon

    Ar-Pharazon Admiral Premium Member

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    Wasn't the ENT "footage" MU Vulcans arriving on MU Earth? I inferred Kovich was talking about MU Terrans meeting "teh Prime" Vulcans during the first crossover. But you have a point that it seems to be the example from ENT.

    IMDB currently doesn't list Nhan for any other episodes this season. But didn't we see some images that showed an aged Nhan?
     
  2. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Admiral Admiral

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    One would think you'd have learned to stop making such solid statements when you've been wrong in the past.

    I don't know how you got that out the conversation.
     
  3. TimeIsAPredator

    TimeIsAPredator Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I was kinda the same on Voyager and had zoned out by the time the Borg queen became a thing.
    Old Trek had an advantage in this regard as most episodes were stand alones with a reset where as the things you don't like in DIS carry on and pile up. Imagine DIS ever done an episode as awful as Threshold and the show was stuck with space salamanders for the rest of the season :lol:
     
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  4. picardjean-luc

    picardjean-luc Captain Captain

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    Agreed. I'm a fan of both L&O and L&O: SVU, Watched both for many years until I grew tired of its "ripped from the headlines'' case of the week plotlines and realized they've just recycled the same plotlines over and over (esp a problem for SVU which increasingly can be retitled as "To Catch a Predator: Fictional Edition" given it features stories about child pedos & rapists to death) :confused::confused:

    I did feel sad when Dick Wolf finally decided to move on from doing L&O and started his Chicago-based spinoffs they're subpar to L&O w/too many action packed and focused too much with the personal stories of the characters, which L&O and to some extent SVU managed to avoid. I wish someone will reboot L&O one of these days, but I realize probably it would never happen anytime soon :shrug:
     
  5. thribs

    thribs Vice Admiral Admiral

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    But they’re the ship guys. That’s their thing
     
  6. TimeIsAPredator

    TimeIsAPredator Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Why would you even watch a 10 minute breakdown of some 30 second clips of a sci-fi if you are put off by nit picky
     
  7. DigificWriter

    DigificWriter Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Really? Did you not bother to read Alex Kurtzman's unequivocal statement - linked to several posts ago - that the series will never be leaving the 32nd Century?

    Whether or not I've been wrong in the past has absolutely nothing to do with repeating a direct statement from the guy who is actually in charge of modern Star Trek.
     
  8. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Why watch something you don't like or has let you down in the past? People do weird stuff.
     
  9. TimeIsAPredator

    TimeIsAPredator Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Ha that's really come back to bite me in n the ass pretty quick
     
  10. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Sorry if that came across as snarkier than I meant. It was meant in good fun.
     
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  11. Kzinti

    Kzinti Commander Red Shirt

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    i didn't actually i stopped watching those nitpicker in chief ages ago however we had thread where that video was posted so that's why i'm aware of it

    not really that was just the actress joking with a instagram filter
     
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  12. Locutus of Bored

    Locutus of Bored Ambassador to Flavortown Moderator

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    Just like the direct statements of Bryan Fuller or Harberts & Berg which you would have also quoted like immutable gospel no matter how many times that kind of overreliance on the showrunner's word like it's never subject to change has come back to bite you in the ass?

    It may very well remain in the 32nd century for the rest of the series, and I hope it does, but there is no way you can declare with 100% certainty that it will based on the showrunner's comments when they potentially have several seasons left to face pressure from the studio, another showrunner change, declining subscriptions or viewership, or changing whims in the writer's room because something's not working out or they want to try something new.

    Also, what if the crew leaving the 32nd century is something they've already planned for some point down the line (after this season or another) and they're keeping it a secret so as not to spoil the surprise for now? Given your track record with Trek and Game of Thrones and other shows you seem incapable of grasping the concept that sometimes showrunners don't always tell audiences the whole truth. Not to be duplicitous, but to not spoil the story. I'm not saying that's definitely going to happen, but it's possible. And even if it's not planned that way, things can change, for a variety of reasons.
     
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  13. Kzinti

    Kzinti Commander Red Shirt

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    off topic but i'm glad he was fired the majority of his ''concept'' for discovery was trash
     
  14. Gordie

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    Watching this episode now. David Cronenberg. Friggin' awesome. How the hell did that happen? I love it.
     
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  15. WarpFactorZ

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    Just caught up with this ep today as well. Lots of fun, and a couple cool Canuck guest spots. Cronenberg, of course, was awesome. For us Degrassi fans, it was also great to see Craig Manning (Jake Epstein) again!

    One question stood out to me, however. During the interrogation of Georgiou, they say it's her third "universe". Does this imply she's been somewhere else that we don't know of? Or did they mean third "time period" (including the MU)? Presumably her illness has been caused by whatever cellular defect they discovered in Terrans. But are they shutting her down for a reason? (that perhaps has something to do with the musical piece?).
     
  16. NCC-73515

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    The universe they came from had an all powerful control and the end of all sentient biological life in the galaxy, so maybe them changing history so drastically by taking the sphere data away makes future people define it as a separate universe :D
     
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  17. Phoenix219

    Phoenix219 Commodore Commodore

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    I........... am surprisingly okay with this. They might as well go all the way with it, at this point. Rescue Pike and Kirk from the moments before their deaths and just bring everyone into the future. Screw it. I'm down.
     
  18. thribs

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    I was curious about this Hummingbird Cake Tilly mentions so I made one. Sadly it doesn’t contain hummingbirds but it does contains pineapples which is a new one for me in cakes. It tasted fine but I didn’t really taste the pineapples. I might add more next time I make one.
    Reminded me of a carrot cake, except with a more fruity taste.
     
  19. Phoenix219

    Phoenix219 Commodore Commodore

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    I thought the point was that they don't have time or resources to do explorationy-sciency 5 year mission things anymore. Their priorities lie elsewhere.
     
  20. lightspeedbear

    lightspeedbear Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    The first episode of season 3 I've actually enjoyed, I thought it was great. Felt very much like Star Trek.

    Sloppy writing about putting all seeds in place, under lock and key by one man and his family, aside, I thought it was a very enjoyable hour.

    Shame about the horribly fuzzy and badly lit visual effects that made Discovery showing up at Starfleet HQ feel like a hazy, blurry headache, whilst as usual, barely showing off any ship designs thanks to terrible camera angles, but oh well.

    Glad they got rid of Nhan too, useless character. And it made no sense she would jump to the future with everyone else in the first place.