Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x05 - "Die Trying"

Dunno about that. In which way did the assorted Enterprises carry out the same mission? As far as we could tell, they did the most generic stuff out there, that is, everything - but so did everybody else. And then just one of the Enterprises was the Federation Flagship for a while, but was succeeded by the next suffix down the line nevertheless.

Timo Saloniemi

 

well, the enterprises were all supposed “to boldly go” etcetera...

 

It's not a Trek thing. It's a thing that's been a part of fiction since we began telling stories by the fire.

 

Cronenberg's character really got me thinking. I think he may be both a Terran and a member or leader of Section 31. This got me thinking more and I'm wondering if somehow Section 31 has from the beginning (perhaps due to time travel) been an instrument of Terrans to infiltrate, influence, and control United Earth and the Federation.

 

As you wish:

as mentioned several times over the years millennia, just because something didn’t make sense in past Trek fiction isn’t a justification if something doesn’t now. Besides, I’m sure that someone on a BBS around a fire in 2000 BC noticed something that didn’t make sense and someone else pointed out something else on TNG in Gilgamesh that didn’t.

Better now?

 

Just as long as we don't get more turbolift funhouse animation, I'm happy. Has there been any this season?

Speaking of uses of transportation, wouldn't it be better for SF to use Discovery as a freighter? Park a few small ships in that oversized shuttle bay, then shroom into the engagement area. Indeed, it might be possible to compact many ships together, presuming I understood the dialogue about ships composed of force fields correctly.

 

You can't park anything in there. Have you seen what shape that bay is in? Apparently, one of the people left behind in the 23rd century was the guy or gal in charge of logistics.

Also, there are no fewer than three workbees flying around in there at all times. Including during black alerts! They have been trying in vain to flush out those idiots by keeping the bay doors open. One of these days, they'll have to accept the inevitable and just send in a firing squad.

Timo Saloniemi

 

They couldn't park Book's ship in there?

 

Not only did he have to crumble it in order to fit, he actually crushed a pile of containers in the process! Just go slo-mo on that scene...

Timo Saloniemi

 

Interesting that the admiral said that they spent most of the other centery fighting the Temporal Wars, so looks like it went from Cold to Hot War. And the Disco and crew being criminals just by time traveling.

 

Thankfully no.

 

The more I think about it, I'm really curious as to what the status of the Borg is in this time frame. I'm not saying that Discovery should do a story that involves the Borg, but I wouldn't mind a reference to the collective and what they're up to (Extinct? Evolved? Still around but no longer a threat?). This episode established that the Federation has a deep space outpost out in the Delta Quadrant near Ocampa and Talax, so they have to have dealt with the issue of Borg space at some point.

Maybe they're specifically avoiding referencing the Borg so they don't step on the toes of anything a future season of Picard might have planned for them. We don't really know what the status of the collective is in 2399 yet, let alone 3188.

I assume we'll probably get some kind of moment where the Discovery crew learns that Romulus no longer exists?

 

Could we potentially see two separate federations that split after the burn, competing for which one is actually the “real” federation, or at least successor state? Discovery will mend the rift between the two, so they can rejoin and become one again!

 

My theory from the 1990s that Agent Sloan was a Terran might be proven correct after all

 

The concept of member worlds can be nebulous. A member could be a homeworld and its associated colonies. Would the Moon be a member on its own, or would it's inclusion in the Federation be an extension of Earth's membership?

 

Kind of waiting for an info dump where they learn everything that has happened in the past 900 years. In a general sense.

 

We DO know however that the Borg encountered over 10 000 species by late 24th century (Voyager)... and assimilated a good portion of those species (but likely not all of them - such as species that didn't offer anything of interest to the Borg, or because they couldn't be assimilated - like 8472)... in some cases when they go assimilating species, they assimilate them in totality (aka, no refugees or anyone left with intact individuality).

An interesting note: We do know they encountered 8472 in Voyager's third year of travel through the DQ... or most likely (shortly before Voyager stumbled upon Borg and 8372).
And only 2 years later, the Borg encountered (and assimilated) species 10026.

Thanks to TW technology, it seems the Borg encountered 1554 more species in just 2 years.

The Federation being limited to slower warp would of course progress slower... but also, this doesn't strike me as convincing because the Federation had numerous options for far faster Warp travel and alternate means of propulsion (especially after Voyager returned)... so, I doubt speed would have been a limiting factor, and we could say that it had mainly a lot to do with Federation entry requirements and we know from 'The Voyager Conspiracy' the following:
CHAKOTAY: That's quite a theory. Perhaps you haven't heard of the Jankata Accord?
SEVEN: No species shall enter another quadrant for the purpose of territorial expansion.
CHAKOTAY: The Federation signed it, the Cardassians signed it, and Captain Janeway would be the last person to violate it.

Its possible that this is what mainly limited Federation expansion further into the galaxy... but 691 years (after the 24th century - 691 years from 2378 would give you the year 3069... when 'The Burn' may have happened) is a VERY long time for those accords to still be in place.

 

You may be right.

Spoiler

Episode 8 & 9 of S3 is a two-parter titled "Terra Firma.''

. Would this refer to a second, probably larger, Federation spun-off established by far-flung Earth colonists in another corner of the galaxy? Stay tuned.