Spoilers Strange New Worlds General Discussion Thread

[Jason X-Mas]

Oh I would love for Captain Colt to show up in an episode and for a certain group of fans to rage about it

But there's no way we won't meet female captains in STW. Unless we never meet another Star Trek vessel for the whole show.

I know. I expect Number One to be a captain by the time the show ends. I even got a idea. She takes over the USS Pike. Pike becomes a rare person to get a ship named after him when he is still alive. Then her first officer Colt shows up who isn't a regular or on the show so this is her first moment and Tyler is her new head of security and this is his first use on the show as well They set a course to explore space.

Jason

 

[Unionized Elf]

I think that that whole "Colt is an alien" is a mistake by someone that doesn't actually work on the set. No doubt in my mind Colt was the redhead redshirt we saw during the closing montage segment of the S2 finale with Spock taking his position on the bridge.

Nope, the alien really is Colt, as reflected in an interview with the writer, the episode's credits, and tie-in novel The Enterprise War. Though the novel tries to evade making direct reference to Colt's transformation into an alien by saying she'd "changed a great deal" since the Talos mission.

The character you're referring to was named Lt. Mann.

 

[The Old Mixer]

Though the novel tries to evade making direct reference to Colt's transformation into an alien by saying she'd "changed a great deal" since the Talos mission.

Those wacky Talosians...

 

[Santa Kang]

Augment Virus. It's always the Augment Virus.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Retconning Colt into an alien does make one wonder how the Talosians expected to breed her with Pike.

Especially since, in "The Cage", Colt is specifically referred to as human.

Me, I'm going with a simple mistake. The alien is never referred to in dialogue as Colt, and obviously can't actually BE Colt, so that pretty much trumps everything else (even credits).

 

[Skywalker]

Can we keep the fan rage to a dull roar with this show...?

Forget it, fireproof78. It's Star Trek.

 

[fireproof78]

Forget it, fireproof78. It's Star Trek.

Oh, well. A man can dream.

 

[Mudd]

I think that that whole "Colt is an alien" is a mistake by someone that doesn't actually work on the set. No doubt in my mind Colt was the redhead redshirt we saw during the closing montage segment of the S2 finale with Spock taking his position on the bridge.

Yeah, yeah, live in hope.

The writer gave the name to a minor character as fan service, and the people producing and casting neither knew nor cared that it meant anything.

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

Seriously, tho' do we even need to see Colt?

I'm fine if we don't. Sure she was in "The Cage," but the yeoman role in Star Trek is rather regressive and archaic, basically a sexatary (spelling intentional) trope.

 

[fireproof78]

Yeoman is a rate still used in the United States Navy.

From the site: Yeoman (YN). YN work is primarily performed in a professional office environment, both afloat and ashore. YNs serve as office managers in support of command administrative infrastructure necessary to meet the command’s objectives. They may work independently, with little supervision or closely with others under close supervision, depending on individual assignments

 

[Jason X-Mas]

We should see Yeoman just for something new that we haven't seen since TOS. I see them as the worker bee's of the crew who go around doing the little things people take for granted. I think that would be a neat flavor to the show. I kind of wonder if Daniels and some of the people who would bring Archer and his guests meals on Enterprise might have also been Yeoman but just never called that on the show.

Jason

 

[fireproof78]

We should see Yeoman just for something new that we haven't seen since TOS. I see them as the worker bee's of the crew who go around doing the little things people take for granted. I think that would be a neat flavor to the show. I kind of wonder if Daniels and some of the people who would bring Archer and his guests meals on Enterprise might have also been Yeoman but just never called that on the show.

Jason

I think it would be nice as well. I like the idea of a variety of jobs and for that to even be part of Starfleet's administrative branch we don't always see. And, if it being a female comes across as too much of a "secretary" then have it be a male yeoman. Like Pike had before.

 

[Jason X-Mas]

I also like the idea of both male and female yeoman's and kind of a whole staff. What if you had someone like Sulu as one. It would add a kind of weird arc to his life. From Yeoman to Captain someday.

Jason

 

[Unionized Elf]

What if you had someone like Sulu as one. It would add a kind of weird arc to his life. From Yeoman to Captain someday.

David Goodman's Kirk Autobiography mentioned Admiral Nogura (mentioned in TMP) had started his career off aboard the Kelvin as Captain Robau's yeoman. That's yeoman to head of Starfleet.

 

[137th Gebirg]

One wonders what kind of Admiral that Robau might have made, had he survived. Methinks the Klingons might have actually respected and feared the Federation through most of the 23rd century.

 

[captainkirk]

One wonders what kind of Admiral that Robau might have made, had he survived. Methinks the Klingons might have actually respected and feared the Federation through most of the 23rd century.

Perhaps he would have wound up as the head of Starfleet instead of Marcus.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Possibly. He strikes me as always having been a lead-from-the-front kind of commander, though, like Patton. I could see him being the last field Admiral of Starfleet, leading a custom-picked battlegroup around the Neutral Zone(s), looking for trouble. If you're the top C&C Fleet Admiral, I suspect there's a lot of "Admiral's Discression" at what he could get away with.

 

[The Old Mixer]

One wonders what kind of Admiral that Robau might have made

One who answered to Federation President Brian Brophy.

 

[PPatters]

One wonders what kind of Admiral that Robau might have made, had he survived. Methinks the Klingons might have actually respected and feared the Federation through most of the 23rd century.

We could find out exactly that in SNW. He may not have died in the original timeline.

 

[137th Gebirg]

IIRC, his death and the destruction of the Kelvin by Nero and the Narada is what caused the split in the timeline, so I would think he should be dead in both. More's the pity - I would love to have seen Faran Tahir reprise his role as the ultimate Starfleet badass.