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Star Trek: Strange New Worlds. Confirmed.

Fantastic news. Pike story is worth exploring. Terrific cast. Modern Enterprise.
Not a reboot, but has all the modern cinema look, budget and special effects. Can't wait.

I subscribed to CBS All access every since the first discovery episode to support for more trek content. Now they are delivering (Disco season 3, Picard, S31, Pike series etc.).
Vote with your wallets.
 
Goldsman is going to be one busy dude. He is working on this Pike series & Picard. He is also going to work on Michael Chabon’s new series. And most interesting of all (at least to me) he is developing a Ringworld series for Amazon.
 
So when will Strange New Worlds get its own forum?

And will speculative threads like this move to it?
The PIC Forum opened on November 26th, 2019. The series premiered January 23rd, 2020.

PIC was announced in spring 2018 and premiered the beginning of 2020. A year-and-a-half. DSC was announced the end of 2015 and premiered in fall 2017. Just under two years. It takes a while for these series to get going.

I'm going to guess that SNW will premiere in the fall of 2021 and the forum will open in the summer of 2021. If the pattern holds. But that doesn't take Covid-19 into account.

So that's a long way of saying it'll probably be a while.
 
hell yeah!

So far I haven't had a problem with either Goldsman's and Kurtzman's writing or directing so far. I don't get where the concern is coming from if it's actually genuine.
it's being peddled by toxic youtubers like RLM and midnight edge who has a financial stake in stoking the toxicity since negativity sells sadly
just start transitioning from the Discoprise to the proper Enterprise and I’ll be happy.
:barf2: god no i hope they keep the Discoprise and retcon the old 1966 original
taking the offerings of a Pulitzer-winning writer and turned it into uninspired, ordinary dressing.
are you really trying to deflect the blame for the abysmal writing/plot of picard away from the lead writer and showrunner and placing it solely on kurtzman which had practically nothing to do with it ?
 
https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-spock-pike-episodic-1234608181
“We’re going to try to harken back to some classical ‘Trek’ values, to be optimistic, and to be more episodic,” Goldsman tell Variety. “Obviously, we will take advantage of the serialized nature of character and story building. But I think our plots will be more closed-ended than you’ve seen in either ‘Discovery’ or ‘Picard.'”
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“I imagine it to be closer to the original series than even ‘DS9,'” Goldsman says of “Strange New Worlds.” “We can really tell closed-ended stories. We can find ourselves in episodes that are tonally of a piece.” Of the type of episode that “Strange New Worlds” might attempt that “Discovery” or “Picard” might not, Goldsman says, “It’s hard to do a shore-leave episode in the middle of a long, serialized arc.”
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“I think one thing that we always struggled with [as fans] was that Kirk is heartbroken at the loss of Edith Keeler in ‘The City on the Edge of Forever’ and has to be just fine the next week,” Goldsman says. “I think what we would want to do is keep the characters having moved through and recognizing the experiences they’ve had in previous episodes, but to be able to tell contained, episodic stories.

I think this is what a lot of us are looking for. Self contained stories that won't negate character development if they come.
 
I expect the series finale to show Kirk, he may even appear earlier. Maybe McCoy too. I expect them to recast instead of using Kelvin actors to avoid the accusation of the series being in Kelvin timeline (even though Pike and Spock are already different).
 
This is the best tweet about the announcement: https://twitter.com/JeffHeineMSP/status/1261497437354524672

Yeah, “The Cage” finally got picked up as a series.
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:barf2: god no i hope they keep the Discoprise and retcon the old 1966 original
I mean, I’m sure the ship will start off as the Discoprise. But as the series goes, it would only make sense for the ship to begin to resemble the Enterprise as it was in TOS. Up until the finale when Pike hands Kirk the keys and it looks like it should.

it’s easier to explain away why it looks like it does in the Disco-verse than to retcon out 50+ years across every subsequent series except Voyager.
 
They fucking did it! :D :D :D

There is hope for this world yet when a greedy, creatively bankrupt, amoral, slave employing, suck up TV studio actually listens to fans and gives them what they obviously want. This has been a fantastic morning - waking up, sitting down at my PC and opening up some nerd sites not expecting anything special and actually stumbling onto this a few pages down, almost hidden.

Took me a while to actually even register the scope of the news and then the widest smile i can muster without hurting myself.

This will be so great - the bridge crew of Pike's Enterprise, chief amongst them Mount's Pike, was just so brilliant it clicked immediately even after only a few moments, i can't wait to see them in an entire show and they got all of them back to do it right.

I hope they get several good seasons out of this and for the show finale we see the command transition from Pike to Kirk, that would be the icing on the cake!
 
I mean, I’m sure the ship will start off as the Discoprise. But as the series goes, it would only make sense for the ship to begin to resemble the Enterprise as it was in TOS. Up until the finale when Pike hands Kirk the keys and it looks like it should.

it’s easier to explain away why it looks like it does in the Disco-verse than to retcon out 50+ years across every subsequent series except Voyager.


I feel like you're setting yourself up for disappointment here. The Enterprise will most likely never again look like it did in TOS 50 years ago.

There is hope for this world yet when a greedy, creatively bankrupt, amoral, slave employing, suck up TV studio actually listens to fans and gives them what they obviously want.

And here you are ready to give that same 'greedy, creatively bankrupt, amoral' etc studio your money now that they are producing something you're interested in. I hope the irony of that isn't lost you.
 
And here you are ready to give that same 'greedy, creatively bankrupt, amoral' etc studio your money now that they are producing something you're interested in. I hope the irony of that isn't lost you.

I've been doing this since i was born and we all do to a degree - my comment was meant as a joke in case it didn't come off across because the entertainment industry can be a sea of sharks but every once in a while they do get something right that is both creative, interesting and just works.
 
I mean, I’m sure the ship will start off as the Discoprise. But as the series goes, it would only make sense for the ship to begin to resemble the Enterprise as it was in TOS. Up until the finale when Pike hands Kirk the keys and it looks like it should.

it’s easier to explain away why it looks like it does in the Disco-verse than to retcon out 50+ years across every subsequent series except Voyager.

You're predicting all of that based on your own wishes, not what actually makes sense. The Connie from the 60's was designed from what was considered aesthetically pleasing then, and its interior technology based on what was considered futuristic then. Making everything look exactly like it did back then at the end of the show would be laughable at best and only done to please a small amount of the fanbase. A group that somehow feels it's entitled to that or something weird.

If you really look at the Enterprise bridge as seen in Discovery, it really does resemble the design from TOS a lot, just with a very modern aestetic to it. I, and many fans, really loved it. The people that didn't are just way more vocal and shouty/screamy on the almighty interwebz. That's why the people hating it feel they are the majority. Most of us that have no issues with it, just ignore those comments and enjoy what we like without feeling the need to justify that online.
 
As long as they don’t use any of the Discovery stuff, it should be good. I want the real Enterprise

This is a Discovery spin-off.

An added bonus: I'm glad all the 23rd Century elements from the first two seasons of DSC have somewhere to go.

This. I was disappointed that the end of DIS’ second season implied we were leaving the 23rd century behind [barring S31, which we have not had definitively confirmed for that time period yet, although it seems likely]. SNW playing in that era is going to be fun.

I’m still bitter that we only got 4 seasons in the 22nd century, through ENT, so I’d have held a grudge if SNW didn’t happen haha.

So far I haven't had a problem with either Goldsman's and Kurtzman's writing or directing so far. I don't get where the concern is coming from if it's actually genuine.

Kurtzman directed Anson’s first episode, which was a visually gorgeous episode, too. Goldsman’s writing credits in Trek, and his directing ones, speak for themselves.

“Fans” who shit on these two are ridiculous.

Between Picard, Discovery and SNW we're up, what, 30 weeks of original Trek programming a year? I think that justifies the subscription.

Throw in all the other shows, too... what a time to be a Trekkie!

Please Cage technology not Discovery. Hoping for the best.

Seriously?

Akiva and that Henry Alonso guy who worked on The Magicians are the showrunners I believe.

I suspect day-to-day showrunner duties will fall on Henry Alonso, to be honest. I would expect Akiva to take on the same role he has with PIC, which is a senior role in production, and big voice in the show, but not the person doing the daily nitty gritty.

Three amazing actors, one hell a beautiful Enterprise and a f*** ton of angry Star Trek fans who will scream this isn't Star Trek. It's going to be a great few years on the forum allright!! :D.

I can’t wait :D

Would they move Ash Tyler over to this show?

Doubtful. End of DIS’s last season seemed to place him where he needs to be for the S31 show, and the actor himself has made many comments about being on it.

So I just opened my YouTube feed and there was a handful of random Jolene Blalock videos near the top.

Weird coincidence.

The worst part of this announcement is that I’m going to once again start to foolishly tell myself that we can [and will] see T’Pol.

I’m not even sure Blalock would want to revisit the character for a one off, but a man can dream. Through Spock, there is a superb opportunity to have her show up, without it feeling too set up.

I mean, I’m sure the ship will start off as the Discoprise. But as the series goes, it would only make sense for the ship to begin to resemble the Enterprise as it was in TOS. Up until the finale when Pike hands Kirk the keys and it looks like it should.

it’s easier to explain away why it looks like it does in the Disco-verse than to retcon out 50+ years across every subsequent series except Voyager.

Dude. The 1701 is now how we’ve seen it in both DIS and PIC. The TOS version is gone, and quite rightly so, given that was over 50 years ago. I don’t understand why people, such as yourself, struggle with this concept?

Even Gene Roddenberry redesigned the thing the first chance he got (TMP).
 
Dude. The 1701 is now how we’ve seen it in both DIS and PIC. The TOS version is gone, and quite rightly so, given that was over 50 years ago. I don’t understand why people, such as yourself, struggle with this concept?

Even Gene Roddenberry redesigned the thing the first chance he got (TMP).

The TMP design being a refit, rather than what the ship had always looked like, was an important plot point for the film, feeding into Kirk’s dangerous unfamiliarity with it. It served a story purpose; it wasn’t there just to be “better” (even if it is my favorite incarnation of the ship), or to pretend it had always been that way.

While I’d hardly expect modern-day producers to hold on to 1960s interior design or close detail work, the classic-Trek exterior of the (TV) 1701 remained in the pop-culture consciousness for the whole 50-plus-year period. Of course people are reluctant to give up the idea that it ever looked that way at all, when it’s probably often part of what they fell in love with in the first place. Surely that’s not hard to grasp?

So yeah, it’s pretty understandable to want to see the ship eventually get another external refit bringing it closer to the classic look. I don’t expect this to happen (though I’d be pleasantly surprised if it did, even though I have nothing against the Discoprise either).
 
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I wrote earlier that I wanted Cage technology instead of Discovery technology. What I meant is no spore drive, holographic communication, or other such advances. I don't expect a replica of The Cage Enterprise or Styrofoam rocks. I want a somewhat optimistic tone, not early TNG uptopia or another dystopian show. They are currently a dime a dozen. Also, please no Section 31 on Strange New Worlds. Section 31 was interesting when introduced in DS9, but every subsequent Trek has used it as a crutch. Weren't they supposed to be hidden and possibly be myth?
 
Fantastic news. Hopefully it lives up to its title, and they would be visiting strange new worlds.

there is obviously a segment of fan base that prefers a TOS/TNG style series, something episodic with colorful uniforms and very optimistic. These people think new Trek shows are too dark and they actually prefer The Orville. Here is their chance to capture this audience.
Variety says the series will be... [Pine Kirk voice] episodic [/Pine Kirk voice], but with character development that continues on thoroughout the series unlike TOS.

With so much new Trek coming I'm glad they're doing each one differently. I just hope it's light years beyond Enterprise seasons 1 and 2, which made exporing new planets dull.
 
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