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Where's [insert character or ship name here]?

Which hero ship would you most like to see in Picard?

  • Enterprise (specify registry)

    Votes: 41 45.6%
  • Voyager

    Votes: 17 18.9%
  • Defiant

    Votes: 24 26.7%
  • Discovery

    Votes: 4 4.4%
  • Other (please specify)

    Votes: 4 4.4%

  • Total voters
    90
Actually, based on her lines in Nemesis, that admiral could have been played by anyone. [...] It was just a glorified two-minute cameo with no substance for the character whatsoever, other than ‘she’s an admiral now.’

I think, I don't get your point there. Yeah, Janeway's appearence in NEM was a cameo and the only information, we got, was, that she's an admiral now - an admiral, that seems to have a good relationship to JL. Compared to many other similiar scenes between Picard and any adimral, this one was even 'intimate'. So, of course, exactly this scene, where they established Janeway as an admiral, who also honored JL's expertise in a field, she always has a lot of experience in, is my point: Without this scene, I've never would have asked myself, why Janeway didn't intervene, when the admirality, she is now a part of, too, accepted JL's retirement. But at the end, I think, that we can have an agreement with this statement:

So I’m assuming we’ll see even less of that in Star Trek: Picard.

I'm assuming the same. And the NEM-scene in my mind, I really see this as a 'whole' in the story, they try to tell us. Not a big 'whole', no, but a 'blind spot', that is a bit irritating to me.
 
I don’t think Janeway was any more or less of a friend to Picard than any other admiral we saw in TNG. So there’d be no reason to focus on her. And for all we know, if she’s even still in Starfleet, she could be as pissed off at him as Clancy was.
 
I don’t think Janeway was any more or less of a friend to Picard than any other admiral we saw in TNG. So there’d be no reason to focus on her.

Oh, I think, more than for example Nechayev, but that's not the point because: We have an agreement, again (two in row!). There'd be no reason to focus on Janeway, of course, but I also never said anything about any "focus" ;)
 
Oh, I think, more than for example Nechayev, but that's not the point because: We have an agreement, again (two in row!). There'd be no reason to focus on Janeway, of course, but I also never said anything about any "focus" ;)

Oh, I’m not trying to argue; I just feel that too much oversaturation of past Trek character cameos will end up taking the focus away from who the show is supposed to be about. I would rather just not know what character X happens to be doing now, because it’s not crucial to the story, especially if said character has either no link to Picard, or the link is so tenuous that it might as well not be there at all.
 
Oh, I’m not trying to argue; I just feel that too much oversaturation of past Trek character cameos will end up taking the focus away from who the show is supposed to be about. I would rather just not know what character X happens to be doing now, because it’s not crucial to the story, especially if said character has either no link to Picard, or the link is so tenuous that it might as well not be there at all.

Yepp, for example like Julian Bashir (oh, hey, Bashir also met Data!) or Seven of Nine (oh, hey, they were assimiliated by the same collective once)! ;)
 
Yepp, for example like Julian Bashir (oh, hey, Bashir also met Data!) or Seven of Nine (oh, hey, they were assimiliated by the same collective once)! ;)

I think the relationship between Picard and 7 of 9 being former Borg is a bit more important than a doctor stationed out in the boonies who met Data precisely one time.

Now with that said, I would have preferred to not even see 7 of 9. But that’s just me.
 
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I think the relationship between Picard and 7 of 9 being former Borg is a bit more important than a doctor stationed out in the boonies who met Data precisely one time.

Yep, now you're on my way. Exactly this differentiation is "the thing", I was talking about at the beginning of our conversation: There are some characters, that are "a bit more important than" other characters. Even in a story, where Picard is in a conflict with the starfleet admirality.

q.e.d. :D
 
Beverly, all my troubles seemed so far away
Now it looks as though they're here to stay
Oh, I believe in Beverly
Suddenly, I'm not half the man I used to be
There's a shadow hanging over me
Oh, Beverly came suddenly
Why she had to go I don't know she wouldn't say
I said something wrong, now I long for Beverly
Beverly, love was such an easy game to play
Now I need a place to hide away
Oh, I believe in Beverly...
 
I think the relationship between Picard and 7 of 9 being former Borg is a bit more important than a doctor stationed out in the boonies who met Data precisely one time.

Now with that said, I would have preferred to not even see 7 of 9. But that’s just me.
Well, they've been explicit in interviews that Seven and Picard literally never met in-universe until the end of episode 4.

She's there not because of her relationship with Picard, but because of her relationship with the Borg, since ex-Borg are a major part of the story.
 
Beverly, all my troubles seemed so far away
Now it looks as though they're here to stay
Oh, I believe in Beverly
Suddenly, I'm not half the man I used to be
There's a shadow hanging over me
Oh, Beverly came suddenly
Why she had to go I don't know she wouldn't say
I said something wrong, now I long for Beverly
Beverly, love was such an easy game to play
Now I need a place to hide away
Oh, I believe in Beverly...
I like that Beverly came before you finished.
That's very gentlemanly of you.
:whistle:
 
Yes. Janeway and Seven alone know more about the Borg than Shelby. Not to mention Picard as well.

I'm wondering whatever became of Tomalak and Sela, if they ever got off of Romulus or were even on Romulus at the time of the supernova. For that matter what happened to the D’deridex and Valdore classes of Romulan Warbird ships?
Picard WAS a Borg. I think his level of Borg-knowledge is at least on par with Janeway. Maybe not as much as Hugh and 7. As an Admiral he would have been privy to everything Janeway knew about the Borg et vice versa, one assumes.
 
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