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”Afraid” of the new Picard series?

The mental gymnastics for DSC are mostly story based, in-universe (classifying everything because of Control). Kludgy, but it is what it is. Visual differences are almost always due to out-of-universe production issues and it’s wrong to assign in-universe explanations (separate timelines, whatever) to these external things
This is a good point. It will depend greatly on what value individual fans put weight on.

Visuals are less concerning to me but that's me.
 
The mental gymnastics for DSC are mostly story based, in-universe (classifying everything because of Control). Kludgy, but it is what it is. Visual differences are almost always due to out-of-universe production issues and it’s wrong to assign in-universe explanations (separate timelines, whatever) to these external things
It is wrong? Really? So will I be arrested now or what?
 
Really? People can be wrong and not be arrested.:rolleyes:
Point being that saying that caring about visuals is wrong is ludicrous. You or El Maestro may not care about them, I most definitely do. And no, I don't thing either of you is wrong to not care about them.
 
Point being that saying that caring about visuals is wrong is ludicrous. You or El Maestro may not care about them, I most definitely do. And no, I don't thing either of you is wrong to not care about them.
It could be wrong. It's all in point of view.

What's wrong for one isn't wrong for the other. And that's ok.

Best exhibit is you and disagreeing over the D vs. E.
 
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It is wrong? Really? So will I be arrested now or what?

Hyperbole aside, I meant wrong as in: assigning in-universe explanations to external, real world issues is an incorrect association of cause and effect. Also, it’s probably *more* mental gymnastics to assign a separate universe to everything, or just the things we don’t like.

I’ll add that none of this is mutually exclusive. It is 100% completely fine that fans would have opinions, preferences, etc. I know I do! But the stuff I like less is in the same universe as the stuff I like more, for better or worse.
 
Hyperbole aside, I meant wrong as in: assigning in-universe explanations to external, real world issues is an incorrect association of cause and effect. Also, it’s probably *more* mental gymnastics to assign a separate universe to everything, or just the things we don’t like.
It is fiction, so everything has external real world effect. And I am really not necessarily talking about any in-universe explanations such as parallel universes or timelines, merely that certain things are different continuities, just like Burton's and Nolan's Batman films are different continuities from each other. Kirk's Enterprise looked certain way and he had never heard of a cloaking devices, Discovery Enterprise looks different, and cloaking devices were prominently used in Klingon War. Both of these simply cannot be true in one universe, to fit them in same continuity I must say one of them is 'wrong'. But if they're different continuities there's no problem and they both can be 'true' in their own continuities.
 
"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain."

― Frank Herbert, Dune

Also, no.
 
It is fiction, so everything has external real world effect. And I am really not necessarily talking about any in-universe explanations such as parallel universes or timelines, merely that certain things are different continuities, just like Burton's and Nolan's Batman films are different continuities from each other. Kirk's Enterprise looked certain way and he had never heard of a cloaking devices, Discovery Enterprise looks different, and cloaking devices were prominently used in Klingon War. Both of these simply cannot be true in one universe, to fit them in same continuity I must say one of them is 'wrong'. But if they're different continuities there's no problem and they both can be 'true' in their own continuities.
Technically. Enterprise introduced cloaking devices. If ENT is in continuity with TOS then so is DSC.
 
Yeah, probably.


Right. So that is effectively the same thing I've been saying, you have just come up with an in-setting rationalisation for it.
It's not my rationalization. Gene offered it in the TMP novelization,. Franz Josephs' manual has an interesting idea that the Intel came from scans from the Enterprise going back in time.

For me, for what is worth, I think the events of TOS happened. The details may be fudged.
 
The series that have most to do with the original topic: TNG and PIC. Maybe you could expand it to say TNG, DS9, VOY, and PIC.

So how did it get to TOS, ENT, and DSC? The three series that have the least to do with any of this.
 
The series that have most to do with the original topic: TNG and PIC. Maybe you could expand it to say TNG, DS9, VOY, and PIC.

So how did it get to TOS, ENT, and DSC? The three series that have the least to do with any of this.
Multiple Mental Timelines Multiverses ???
:whistle:
 
Yeah. I treat as a continuity where women can be captains.
Fair. Not that they ever explicitly said that they couldn't.

But yes, back to topic. What indeed is relevant is how good continuity Picard will maintain with TNG, and to lesser extent other 24th century shows. Thus far it seems that they're paying a lot of attention to it, which I find very pleasing.
 
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