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Spidey OUT of MCU

grendelsbayne said:
Personally, I just don't buy the idea of an 'Official' Avengers roster in the first place. The Avengers are whoever shows up to fight the good fight together. So for me, everyone who isn't dead, retired or probably/possibly retired is currently an active Avenger until we see otherwise.
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Unlike these guys and gal.
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"Big round table with six chairs, and room for more"
 
Reverend said:
Basically what I was getting at that FFH certainly gave the impression that nobody other than Beck and Peter were available to deal with a potentially world ending event. So odds are, all the ones left on Earth are out of contact for one reason or another and as such, probably not active Avengers in the strictest sense.
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But what would stop them--and any sense of responsibility--from joining the fight? Unless the forthcoming TV shows explain why they were so tied up (essentially what the comics did for generations when say, Spider-Man missed some grave situation also taking place in New York), get ready for large plot issues, or unexplained gaps that stretches credibility about what heroes are up to when the world is falling apart.
 
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Not sure if that's really meant to be an argument against what I said or not, but for the record I'm not saying he was never an Avenger. I'm saying if our standards are as strict as Reverend proposes, then his behavior in FFH (very heavily determined not to get involved in Avengers level stuff, even though he ultimately doesn't get his way) combined with the ending of that film is more than enough to call his current status into question right alongside Falcon, Winter Soldier, etc.
 
Guys, I'm not really suggesting that he IS the only active Avenger on Earth, so much as that's the impression the last movie seemed to give. They even hinted at it in a certain post credits scene where a certain someone didn't seem to have any clue where any of them had gotten to. The point being that if the next non-solo is not an Avengers movie but a cameo in someone else's solo, it'd be a bit odd.
 
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grendelsbayne said:
Eh, by those standards I wouldn't call Spidey an 'active Avenger', either. Yeah Fury roped him into a caper, but that's not the same thing. And FFH's ending leaves him in the same Schrodinger's what the heck is going on with this guy right now position as others.

Personally, I just don't buy the idea of an 'Official' Avengers roster in the first place. The Avengers are whoever shows up to fight the good fight together. So for me, everyone who isn't dead, retired or probably/possibly retired is currently an active Avenger until we see otherwise.
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I think Civil War was pretty much the end of the official Avengers team, and the end of Endgame seemed to pretty much put a cap on that.
When we do eventually get a new Avengers movie, I'm thinking a bit part of it will be building a new team. We do have quite a few heroes around now, but I'm not really sure how many of them are really in a position to be on a team full time.
Black Panther is a king, so most of his time will be devoted to that, Capt. Marvel seems more concerned with space stuff than Earth stuff, we won't know Falcon, Winter Soldier, or Scarlett Witch's status quos until after their series. Dr. Strange is probably not going to be involved in non-magical threats that aren't related to the Infinity Stones, Banner might be active, Spider-Man is a question mark until his third movie, and we don't really know what Ant-Man and the Wasp's status quo is right now.
Whether Spider-Man is a part of that team will probably depend on how Spider-Man: Home 3 ends, and whether or not he pops up in one of the other Phase 4 or 5 movies before it.
 
Turtletrekker said:
Black Panther currently serves as Chairman of the Avengers in the comics. T'Challa may see taking over the operation of the Avengers as a natural extension of Wakanda taking a larger role in world events.
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I'm not sure how tied things are to the MCU canon, but the upcoming Disney attractions are all centered on Avengers campuses set up across the globe (conveniently in Disney parks) and there is going to be one ride that involves a quinjet flight to Wakanda implying increased ties between them and the Avengers.
 
Just never show him a movie version of A Midsummer Night’s Dream then. Just pretend cosplay hogwash trash, too. Not real emotional human drama.
 
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