I would love to see an adaptation of Captain America Red White and Black made for the MCU.
Marvel films, it's time for a Black female lead
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I wouldn't mind that either, I only mentioned the post mcu world to talk about the context that I would enjoy an Isaiah Bradley movie even if he was 'replacing' Steve as the only cap in his film universe rather than in addition to him.
Though I wonder if it might not just be a bit weird in the MCU because of the timing, since he would have to be in addition to Steve yet also totally unable to interact with Steve now that Evans is done. Seems like it might have the potential to feel like a TWS type storyline but with Cap and Bucky never allowed to have a scene together.
So what is that story about? I was also curious about something. Did Peggy Carter ever become a super hero in the comics? Maybe a multi-verse version could show up eventually. Jason
I guess we do need a new Captain America now.
Personally I'd find it funny if they made someone like Spiderman a black woman just to see the incels squirm.
Personally I'd find it funny if they made someone like Spiderman a black woman just to see the incels squirm.
That's the most important part of her origin, otherwise she wouldn't be able to get a visa to work at the X-Mansion.
That's the most important part of her origin, otherwise she wouldn't be able to get a visa to work at the X-Mansion.
Kitty Pryde talked a bout a trust fund from Charles at one point, but then she was the first kid to sign up, since the original 5. Charles may not have been so kind to future generations, and future Principles may not have been so kind to their litany of faceless, disposable students.
Charles should have the US Government departments mind whammeyed.
Uncanny 360ish, Bachello was doing the art, the board of Education did a snap inspection on the School (Charles was no longer in the picture?) who was threatening to pull their accreditation if someone didn't fill out all the paper work that was never filed with the district board.
Queen of Wakanda is something for Ororo to put on her resume, but T'Challa explained it that the specificity of Divorce in Wakanda is that she is now an enemy of the state and shouldn't count on any positive references.... Obama was at her wedding.
When William Moulton Marston was tasked with creating a new superhero to employ the educational potential he saw in the medium of comics, his wife Elizabeth told him to make it a female superhero. That character they (and William's mistress Olivia) co-created is Wonder Woman, and she comes directly from the kind of thinking you denounce here. Because, for a creator, often the message comes first.
Or as a different example, a few months back I bought an artbook by Boris Vallejo, and I found this piece called
My first thought upon seeing this was "This looks cool." My second thought was "Looks like Black Conan". And the combined third thought was "Black Conan would actually be pretty cool."
It started me thinking that most of our western fantasy is based on European myths and legends (with some North-African myths sprayed in, but through a more old-time European-centric lense, like Evil Mummies and such). Now, Asians have their own fantasy literature and movies and such dealing with Asian myths and legends.
But I'm not aware of much fantasy based on African myths and legends. If there is, it's not made its way to me. I've seen some use of Anansi, and originally zombies (not the brain-eating kind, the original kind) are based on some African cultures' rituals, but otherwise I haven't even heard much about African legends and folklore. And my guess is I'm not the only one who's mostly ignorant of African stories.
But there must be stories, obviously, it's a large continent with many different cultures dating back at least as far as the European cultures. And they can't all have been suppressed by European colonialists, as the legends of Egypt, Arabia, India, have survived colonialism. There must be a treasure-trove of myths that could be a great foundation for fantasy stories. So, yeah, Black Conan would definitely be cool.
What I'm trying to say is, if you change the gender and/or ethnicity of your main character, it not only gives people of that gender and/or ethnicity some much needed identification and validation, it also can change the perspective from which the story comes from, and that enriches all of us, including a white, heterosexual cis-male like me.
When they were testing the Super Soldier Serum on pigs and cows, most of them exploded. So by the time they thought that it was safe for human testing, it still wasn't safe for human testing on a white guy. So they rounded up a few blacks, and waited to see how many of them would explode, before it was safe to use on a white guy. Cue Steve Rogers, the Second Captain America.
The story was a metaphor for human testing that the US Government did do on African Americans before, during and after WWII.
Peggy is not a super hero. She was part of the Avengers support staff (admin?) during the early 1990s on Hydrobase, and the Mansion. Briefly, we saw her freaking out that Steve wanted to bang her very-very-very young niece Sharon now, instead of good old reliable Peggy.
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But she apparently will be in an episode of What If?
Yes, that's the way it should be, but the nuts and weirdos have taken over the asylum.
Really, what world are you in?
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Nope.
Captain Marvel was a crappy movie.. that it made money like that was in no small part to being in coattails of IW and EG .. let's not split hairs here
That conclusion, or this conclusion?
Changing the ethnicity of the lead character does not change the story. That role could have been played by any male human. Was The Equalizer a worse movie because the lead wasn't an older, white English male?
You say that like it's an objective fact. Which... it isn't.
Oddly, movie studios are interested in making money. That's... one might say, their entire reason for being.
If you want creativity without profit, creativity without pursuing a market, may I suggest we talk about ballet?
So you're saying there is a Captain Americow?When they were testing the Super Soldier Serum on pigs and cows, most of them exploded. So by the time they thought that it was safe for human testing, it still wasn't safe for human testing on a white guy. So they rounded up a few blacks, and waited to see how many of them would explode, before it was safe to use on a white guy. Cue Steve Rogers, the Second Captain America.
The story was a metaphor for human testing that the US Government did do on African Americans before, during and after WWII.
Peggy is not a super hero. She was part of the Avengers support staff (admin?) during the early 1990s on Hydrobase, and the Mansion. Briefly, we saw her freaking out that Steve wanted to bang her very-very-very young niece Sharon now, instead of good old reliable Peggy.
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It was a perfectly serviceable entry in the MCU film series. Middle of the pack to me.
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