And then that makes Pike, Number 1, and Spock liars. Kind of throws a wrench in the whole if you mention Discovery you will be killed thing doesn't it?
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x14 - "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2"
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And then that makes Pike, Number 1, and Spock liars. Kind of throws a wrench in the whole if you mention Discovery you will be killed thing doesn't it?
Riiiiiiight. You're talking about the show that has driven for more CBS All Access subscriptions than anticipated and launched a number of other ST series? If you think that's poorly handled, you don't understand the definition of full on success!
Who says Georgiou has to lead Section 31 in the 23rd Century? She doesn't. And right now, I couldn't care less. Awesome finale.
That was a fairly satisfying - though not perfect, finale to the season.
What I Liked:
Also, I find it curious they decided to end the episode from the POV of the Enterprise crew rather than the Discovery crew. While as I said Spock's closing monologue was good, it sure gave the impression that we were going to pick up next with the Pike series rather than with Michael & company.
What I Liked:
- Spock's final monologue was on point. Peck is so damn much better at delivering these monologues without making them seem overwrought than SMG is.
- I was expecting the Klingon cavalry to come in, but I enjoyed L'Rell's crowning moment of awesome, particularly the "Today is a good day to die"
- Siranna showing up, on the other hand, was totally unexpected. A bit forced honestly (how did they learn to fly Ba'ul ships so fast?) but it was still a nice touch which helped to tie Saru's arc this season in with the season arc as a whole.
- In general, I feel like the the arc tied together much more neatly than last season. The way out of the "seven signals" issue was not totally unexpected, but it was a nice answer for why we had yet to see two of them. And yeah, in retrospect - since they wrote everything towards this conclusion - I can see how each of the earlier five signals was building towards this point in the finale. They found a way to work faith back into the arc as well. So even if they made hash of the planned arc midway through the season, they managed to salvage it by the end.
- The action and VFX were overstuffed. The space battle was much more beautifully rendered than in the first season, but it was so busy that it was hard to keep track of action. And while I appreciated seeing Burnham relive the five earlier signals from her POV, it really was just episode padding.
- You mean to tell me that all you need to do in order to stop a photon torpedo from blowing up a ship is to close emergency bulkhead doors? The scene made some emotional sense (someone had to make a heroic sacrifice) but it didn't make a lick of logical sense.
- I don't understand how destroying Leland was enough to kill Control - at least locally. One would imagine AI is a distributed intelligence, and just like how he was simultaneously able to possess Leland and that mook the other week he would be able to run on the ships and within Leland at once. Not that it mattered much, since by the time Control "died" Discovery was already on its way out, but still.
- Spock telling Michael how damn special he was to him during the scene where he was stranded in the shuttlecraft was laying it on a bit thick. Not that I think it's out-of-character in any way for Spock to feel deeply for someone underneath the surface, but being that explicit and overwrought about it was just eye-rolling.
Also, I find it curious they decided to end the episode from the POV of the Enterprise crew rather than the Discovery crew. While as I said Spock's closing monologue was good, it sure gave the impression that we were going to pick up next with the Pike series rather than with Michael & company.
The screwed up subtitles prevents me from rating it at this time. I'll rewatch at a later time to see if they are fixed.
A few things I didn't like...
1) Was there an episode this season where Burnham didn't cry? Doesn't seem like it.
2) I hate the way Burnham and the doctor hold their communicators sideways when using them. Sort of reminds me of the "gangsta" movies where they hold the guns sideways when shooting. Sorry, it doesn't make anyone look cooler.
Pike and the Enterprise stole the whole season. Makes it easier to wait for season 3 because it can't get any better.
Glad to see they finally gave Airiam 1 some lines.
A few things I didn't like...
1) Was there an episode this season where Burnham didn't cry? Doesn't seem like it.
2) I hate the way Burnham and the doctor hold their communicators sideways when using them. Sort of reminds me of the "gangsta" movies where they hold the guns sideways when shooting. Sorry, it doesn't make anyone look cooler.
Pike and the Enterprise stole the whole season. Makes it easier to wait for season 3 because it can't get any better.
Glad to see they finally gave Airiam 1 some lines.
Maybe we can get a Star Trek/Lost in Space crossover.
Danger, Michael Burnham, Danger
Still waiting for season 2 of that show by the way.
According to the official record, destroyed
I’m not 100% sure how I feel about that.
I can't rate this one, either. I'm all for at least a short Trek with Pike, Spock, and Number One.
But that ending was just weird. The last scene should have been of the Discovery crew, even if the writers, incredibly, haven't yet decided where they're winding up.
But that ending was just weird. The last scene should have been of the Discovery crew, even if the writers, incredibly, haven't yet decided where they're winding up.
so i realized that them pulling out of the bridge of the Enterprise is a reference to the opening of the Cage with them pulling in.
The Discovery timeline is now completely separate from that of the original series. How does it feel to be approaching a brand new time period with the show?
Kurtzman ... "We love playing within canon. It's a delight and a privilege. It's fun to explore nooks and crannies of the universe that people haven't fully explored yet. That being said, we felt strongly that we wanted to give ourselves an entirely new energy for season three with a whole new set of problems. We're farther than any Trek show has ever gone.
..."the same thought process that went into jumping 950 years into the future. We're now completely free of canon, and we have a whole new universe to explore.
<grumble>
Kurtzman ... "We love playing within canon. It's a delight and a privilege. It's fun to explore nooks and crannies of the universe that people haven't fully explored yet. That being said, we felt strongly that we wanted to give ourselves an entirely new energy for season three with a whole new set of problems. We're farther than any Trek show has ever gone.
..."the same thought process that went into jumping 950 years into the future. We're now completely free of canon, and we have a whole new universe to explore.
<grumble>
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That was the most invested I've been in a space battle since I saw Star Trek VI in the theater. And it had all the best elements of that movie's and DS9's space battles. The fireworks made me feel like I should've been watching this on the 4th of July... but maybe I can do exactly that. 
And there we have it.
And they're freakin' adorable.
Yep me too. I thought for sure there was going to be a shock teaser at the end about where they ended up!I'm bummed They didn't give us just a few seconds of where Discovery and Burnham went.
So, the only way we'll see the 23rd Century again is if They do a Pike/Enterprise show.
I don't see that happening any time soon.
That makes perfect sense. Let’s get the captain down there, or an admiral who isn’t even part of the crew. You definitely need rank to operate a manual control.
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