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Star Trek 4 Reportedly Shelved

to be fair, they did two scales. the one i posted was the smaller scale, here's the larger one:
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it's better. but these toys are worse than the ones playmates released a decade before.
But how come there's such a vast difference between the two? They don't even look like they're made by the same company, hence my comment about it looking like a Chinese knock-off like this:
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But how come there's such a vast difference between the two? They don't even look like they're made by the same company,
they were different companies.

the TOS license was held by art asylum/DST. the 2009 star trek license was held by playmates... who produced hundreds of really great action figures in the 90s, but dropped the ball pretty bad in 09.
 
they were different companies.

the TOS license was held by art asylum/DST. the 2009 star trek license was held by playmates... who produced hundreds of really great action figures in the 90s, but dropped the ball pretty bad in 09.
I was talking more specifically about the two scales of '09 figures, but you made me think of a good point. Why did they give the license to a company who didn't seem to care about designing quality figures?
When Hasbro produced a disappointing line of toys for Jurassic World they were replaced with Mattel for the sequel. With Star Trek, they went from the Playmates figures to Hasbro's KRE-O sets and then to just Funko Pops. It's just a downward spiral.
 
back in 09 it was funny going in to local supermarkets, toystores or just wherever and seeing shelves stacked full of Star 'TREK' figures and toys.. maybe the only other time that happened was 1979 (and in 1984/85 i remember you could get the little ertl Trek III figures in toy stores) .. there was all the playmates trek figures in the 90s but there were only available in the SF comic stores (at least in the uk anyway).

then in around 2012ish found all the 09 figures in the Pound store! so picked up Spock Prime as if you had to get just one that would be it.. but then figured what the hell and went back for Kirk, Spock, Nero,Pike (but not the rest for some reason idk why didn't just get all of them)
 
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I was talking more specifically about the two scales of '09 figures, but you made me think of a good point. Why did they give the license to a company who didn't seem to care about designing quality figures?
When Hasbro produced a disappointing line of toys for Jurassic World they were replaced with Mattel for the sequel. With Star Trek, they went from the Playmates figures to Hasbro's KRE-O sets and then to just Funko Pops. It's just a downward spiral.
Money, pure and simple. Licensing costs money, production costs money, and Star Trek is highly niche.

I also strongly suspect the time table was not sufficient for them to produce what they actually wanted. By the time they were audiences had already moved on. So, they stopped spending money on it.
 
oh yeah, it's embarrassing how badly the license has been handled over the years. and the fact that we just got two high quality action figures from star trek into darkness in the last couple months is baffling.

Had no idea these even existed. Nice to see the Kelvin time line is still being merchandised, though it's too goddamn late to really mean anything at this point when tbh something like this should have been around ten years ago now, lol. The likenesses to Pine and Quinto are excellent. Hope they do the rest. :)
 
there's a lot of dubious talk on youtube about paramount and CBS' battle over merchandising and how that adversely affected the kelvin films' value as a new, viable franchise.

but the truth is, very few companies even produced desirable merchandise for the 2009 film. QMX came out with badges and the phaser but those appeared well after the movie hit theaters. ANOVOS took years to actually get their uniform line up and running. eaglemoss was still a few years off from their collection. that left burger king, kellogg's, and playmates.

i think if playmates hadn't shit the bed with their action figures, the franchise might have been ok. i know that's a huge claim to make, but star trek 2009 was as toy friendly as movies come. and they still couldn't make product that appealed to kids and collectors. really wasn't about the fact that there were TOS kirks on pegs next to kelvin kirks, it matters that TOS kirk looked like this:
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and kelvin kirk looked like this:
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100%. The larger scale one you posted later was better, but still far from the mark, and at least in my part of the world a lot harder to come by than the small scale shit-the-bed versions. That all the marketing was being pushed towards the small scale ones too (ie, the so-called 'Bridge playset' debacle) undoubtedly hurt the range beyond repair, and probably the marketability of the Kelvin verse as a whole (it may have been critical in torpedoing them). Alongside this being the frankly IMO bizarre idea to mix and match uniforms, McCoy being in academy cadet uniform instead of duty uniform, it leant the range not only a cheap look but an inconsistent one. Everyone wants their figures to look good on the shelf and those figures didn't look good. It reminds me of the shit fest that was the Indiana Jones action figure range following the release of Crystal Skull. That movie notwithstanding, an Indiana Jones line of action figures should have been a licence to print money, but instead a few bad creative choices killed it dead.
 
Had no idea these even existed. Nice to see the Kelvin time line is still being merchandised, though it's too goddamn late to really mean anything at this point when tbh something like this should have been around ten years ago now, lol.
I first saw these figures a little bit after Into Darkness came out, so they've been around for awhile, but you really had to look around for them at the time. IIRC, they were Japanese imports, so they were also kind of expensive to all but serious collectors.
...the frankly IMO bizarre idea to mix and match uniforms, McCoy being in academy cadet uniform instead of duty uniform, it leant the range not only a cheap look but an inconsistent one.
It's been almost a decade since I read it, I don't even know where to find it anymore, but there was a report that the big three toy retailers at the time--Wal-Mart, Target, and the now defunct Toys R Us--didn't want everyone to be in "Enterprise uniforms" and Playmates obliged. I recall it saying something that there were so many figures in that initial wave, and that they didn't want a sea of characters in the same kind of outfits on their shelves. That might have been what Trekkers would have wanted, but the Big 3 were the ones placing the orders at the time, so they were calling the shots as far as what got in their stores. Maybe if Playmates had done smaller waves over a longer period of time and just stuck to one figure scale, maybe McCoy and Chekov could have been released in their regular uniforms later as was originally planned.
 
I first saw these figures a little bit after Into Darkness came out, so they've been around for awhile, but you really had to look around for them at the time. IIRC, they were Japanese imports, so they were also kind of expensive to all but serious collectors.

It's been almost a decade since I read it, I don't even know where to find it anymore, but there was a report that the big three toy retailers at the time--Wal-Mart, Target, and the now defunct Toys R Us--didn't want everyone to be in "Enterprise uniforms" and Playmates obliged. I recall it saying something that there were so many figures in that initial wave, and that they didn't want a sea of characters in the same kind of outfits on their shelves. That might have been what Trekkers would have wanted, but the Big 3 were the ones placing the orders at the time, so they were calling the shots as far as what got in their stores. Maybe if Playmates had done smaller waves over a longer period of time and just stuck to one figure scale, maybe McCoy and Chekov could have been released in their regular uniforms later as was originally planned.
From a store merchandising perspective, it ,makes sense as they know that people collect these so the more versions - the more sales to said figure collectors.
 
Ewww. I'm sorry, but not only am I not a fan of the delta pattern shirts, but those chest joints are whack.
That chest joint is pretty standard these days, modern superhero costumes help hide the cut so it isnt as noticeable. I believe the old DST figures also had a similar joint, but hid it under a soft plastic "shirt" - not sure why these figures didn't do the same, maybe a cost-cutting move or the soft plastic didnt work with the arrowhead pattern.
I first saw these figures a little bit after Into Darkness came out, so they've been around for awhile, but you really had to look around for them at the time. IIRC, they were Japanese imports, so they were also kind of expensive to all but serious collectors.
These are new figures first released this year, the Japanese ones are a little bigger and the scupts are more stylized.
 
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