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Star Trek 4 Reportedly Shelved

I'm a weird trek fan with unpopular opinions I guess.
i'm right there with you.

it wasn't until i saw star trek 2009 a million times that i was able to go back and appreciate TOS and shatner's kirk. still, there's nothing as cohesive or satisfying than kirk's arc in the kelvin timeline in TOS or the first 7 films. prime kirk's relationship with his son and (as a result) the klingons comes closest to a complete journey for the character, but the kelvin trilogy benefits from a more focused storyline for kirk. and while i so wish to see another film in this series, at least star trek beyond closes that journey out in a mostly satisfying way.
 
i'm right there with you.

it wasn't until i saw star trek 2009 a million times that i was able to go back and appreciate TOS and shatner's kirk. still, there's nothing as cohesive or satisfying than kirk's arc in the kelvin timeline in TOS or the first 7 films. prime kirk's relationship with his son and (as a result) the klingons comes closest to a complete journey for the character, but the kelvin trilogy benefits from a more focused storyline for kirk. and while i so wish to see another film in this series, at least star trek beyond closes that journey out in a mostly satisfying way.
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I just saw young Karl Urban's Perfect abs in an old episode of Xena Warrior Princess, which the Star Trek 2009 failed to exploit at all.

Pine is a cuddly pudding tub.
 
If it really has been shelved, well that sucks, but the Kelvin reboots have achieved exactly what they set out to do.
 
increase stock value for Paramount's shareholders and improve its long-term viability?
 
I was thinking "re-establish Star Trek as a viable franchise and prove to investors that it still has an audience and a future", but yeah that too.
 
I wonder if 5hen One Upon a Time is out they’ll have QT restart the movie franchise? Though saying that the TV front isn’t exactly... quiet
 
Why not do one w/o Pine? Or recast? As a high school teacher, I can tell you kids have no knowledge or caring of movie Trek, thus my assumption the general public wouldn't care much. Or ditch him, make Spock captain, and take the crew a whole new direction?
 
Why not do one w/o Pine? Or recast? As a high school teacher, I can tell you kids have no knowledge or caring of movie Trek, thus my assumption the general public wouldn't care much. Or ditch him, make Spock captain, and take the crew a whole new direction?

Ditching Pine or recast him is extreme, and IMO unnecessary. If they cannot find a deal with him to have him in the movie with a big role, they can still give him a smaller one this round ( so the actor is still available for other projects too) and make a movie where Spock is indeed the captain because Kirk has gone mia in one mission and the crew essentially tries to find him. Or maybe the ones gone mia are Spock, Uhura and others and the main plot isn't aboard the ship (that being the secondary, parallel, plot with Kirk) but what is happening on that planet while Kirk's friends struggle to contact him and starfleet to get help.
Idk, put some cute small new aliens (who speak a weird language of sounds and signs that Uhura can figure out ) helping the missing crew members that would sell a ton of toys too, since you are at it?

This is what kelvin trek fails to do, btw: create more merchandising stuff and monetize on that too between movies.
Take Uhura's necklace from beyond: why on earth they didn't release a version of it that fans could buy? I've read so many people everywhere asking where they could buy a 'tracking device' necklace. It's actually pretty and would make such a funny, cute, valentine gift for fans and non fans.
My understanding is that the they might not even be allowed to use that same necklace in other movies because licensing rights complicate matters. The fact they changed the uniforms in beyond may not be a stylish choice only. If they make another movie, you might not see, again, a lot of the things you saw in beyond. .including those uniforms.

I feel this is a microcosmic example of why the franchise may struggle where others do not. Take Disney, you cannot compare to that studio if you have behind the scenes issues that they don't have and you don't invest in the same quality promotion others invest into.
 
Count me as another one who thinks Pine's Kirk is the best. I think that with Discovery recasting Spock and Pike, along with other more minor characters we should accept that these are now characters akin to Sherlock Holmes or all the superheroes and they can be played by many different people. Just because the TOS cast was the first it doesn't mean that they will always be the best.
 
This is what kelvin trek fails to do, btw: create more merchandising stuff and monetize on that too between movies.
there's a lot of dubious talk on youtube about paramount and CBS' battle over merchandising and how that adversely affected the kelvin films' value as a new, viable franchise.

but the truth is, very few companies even produced desirable merchandise for the 2009 film. QMX came out with badges and the phaser but those appeared well after the movie hit theaters. ANOVOS took years to actually get their uniform line up and running. eaglemoss was still a few years off from their collection. that left burger king, kellogg's, and playmates.

i think if playmates hadn't shit the bed with their action figures, the franchise might have been ok. i know that's a huge claim to make, but star trek 2009 was as toy friendly as movies come. and they still couldn't make product that appealed to kids and collectors. really wasn't about the fact that there were TOS kirks on pegs next to kelvin kirks, it matters that TOS kirk looked like this:
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and kelvin kirk looked like this:
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I actually had to check to see if that was a genuine toy and not a Chinese knock-off. How did they end up with something so bad?
to be fair, they did two scales. the one i posted was the smaller scale, here's the larger one:
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it's better. but these toys are worse than the ones playmates released a decade before.
 
The 6-inch figures were a bit better, but they were still done at a cheaper price point $8-10 than the $15-20 Diamond Select 7-inch figures, so i still wouldn't expect much parity.

I think Playmates should have just released a single scale, two scales obviously split their development budget into two half-ass lines. Probably should have gone with their old 5-inch scale and had the best of both worlds: smaller scale to allow playsets/beter play value and larger scale with more detail for collectors (along with backwards compatibility to their 90s Trek stuff)
 
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