Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x10 - "The Red Angel"

That's probably what it was.

Control has already generated holograms of dead admirals; simply faking Leland's voice would be child's play.

 

Yeah, the Klingons wanted a fight its just that Michael was the first to not just realise it but also try to do something about it, she almost succeeded.

The fact that the Federation did not want to fight makes no difference at all to the outcome.

 

Occam's Razor would agree with that. It's the most straightforward possibility for me as well.

 

It does hold together because, crucially, Spock got the phaser.

Perhaps I'm off base but I read the situation as follows: Spock saw that the safety measures were counterproductive but better to let everyone go about executing the rest of the plan than to waste time arguing.

I say this because I wanted to pause the episode to argue with my roommate's cat about everything, but decided to just let the episode play out. Then I realized Spock was doing the same thing.

Also the safety measures were there and made sense because if they realized they forgot some detail or needed to abort for other reasons, they needed to be able to.

"Oh hey, uh, Klingons are attacking, maybe now isn't a good time." <-- extremely rational, logically sound way to go about things.

So, overall, it makes perfect sense, but it did hinge on there being one extremely stubborn person there who would absolutely not let emotion get in the way.

 

I thought it was pretty clear in the scene, I think Georgiou could see what was going on with Stamets and Culber and so she decided to see if she could make one or both of them jealous and calling into question their sexual orientation, thus showing that they do actually still care for each other in spite of the obvious difficult situation.

From what I can see it actually worked even though it looks like Tilly blew a fuse or two.

 

I contradicted myself a bit by first taking the stance that the safety net was a bad idea and then going on to explain why the safety net made sense.

I shouldn't post hastily but I'm going to invoke "You Know What I Mean" privileges

 

While I too am pretty sure that the AI impersonated him through the comms, there is no reason for me to believe that he was necessarily killed. He might have just been incapacitated.

Then again maybe he is dead, but I think they would have made that less ambiguous to us viewers.

 

My casual dress is all black 90%+ of the time.

 

It makes the Xindi weapon look primitive by comparison.

 

I'd be going with "nanoprobes", particularly based on a moment in next episode's preview trailer.

 

Fixed point in time.

 

They were good friends, and still, Spock never said a word until he had no other choice.

 

I suspect Leland is a shapeshifter. One of "The Hundred" sent forth by the Founders. That eye thing looked like a droplet from the Great Link.

 

The labels still exist - but no one cares or makes assumptions based on sexual (or gender) orientation. Hell, GR seems to posit that sex isn't a hangup in any way, and if the censors would have allowed it, there would be "Love Instructors" of every kind for anyone to 'consult' as they felt the need.

 

I still think paid Orion assistants for Vulcans going through Pon Farr should be a thing, since it's literally a life and death matter and prevents illogical betrothals like Spock/T'Pring, Koss/T'Pol, etc.

Spock: T'Pring, you prefer Stonn? Fascinating. (Spock then calmly walks off with an Orion escort and never looks back).

 

Poor Stamets was about to call Sexual Harassment Panda.

 

...until Shatner gets the chance to write a book.

 

What 'usual take'?

I ask because we've had TOS episodes like:

- "Tomorrow Is Yesterday": Where they beam an F-104 pilot aboard, have an adventure and somehow beam him back before any of the events happen (yet when beaming into himself his mass doesn't double; and somehow the future him beamed in doesn't recall anything (Yet everyone on the 1701 remembers everything...)

- "City On The Edge of Forever": Where a drug addled McCoy jumps through an alien artifact goes back to Earth in the 1930ies and changes history to the point that neither the 1701 nor the Federation exists - leaving Kirk and Spock to go through the same artifact to set things right.

And then there's TNG:

- "Yesterday's Enterprise": The 1701-C comes into the Future and EVERYTHING INSTANTLY CHANGES - adventure ensues; but once back through the rift, 'Time' returns to normal (at least until TNG S5 - "Redemption II" where we see the results (although technically Sela was "In The Shadows" since TNG S4 - "The Mind's Eye").

- "Time's Arrow: Where Mark Twain comes through a time portal to the 24th century (yetr nothing changes in the 24th century); and again adventure ensues and he ultimately returns to the 19th century to deliver a message and help our heroes save Earth yet again.

My point: If there's ANYTHING that' consistent about the depiction of Time Travel in Star Trek; it's that said depictions have no consistency. Like Warp Drive distance traveled via a certain Warp Factor, the depiction of Time Travel in Star Trek is beholden to the needs of the plot.

Therefore the depiction of Time Travel in this episode was 100% consistent with every other Star Trek depiction of Time Travel.