Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x04 - "An Obol for Charon"

[Seven of Five]

I indulged and gave my first 10 this season.

Loved a lot of different things in this one. Saru was breaking my heart this week. He's been a favourite for a while, but seeing him cope with him being (or so he thought) on deaths door. Burnham was also great in his 'final' scenes. Him coming out of it all a lot more assured of himself is an interesting development.

I know that unknown object seeming like a threat, only to in fact turn out to be trying to get in touch, is all a tried and tested Trek Trope. I just enjoyed how it was done here.

After somewhat ham-fisted handling of Tilly and the spore last week, I was happy that plot was picked up again. It was heartwarming seeing Stamets and Tilly singing together to distract before the drilling began.

Putting Seven's, sorry, Tilly's cortical implant in was a very edgy moment in contrast to the singing.

Just one last quick one, I'm really glad Jet is part of the team. I love her put-downs!

 

[cooleddie74]

In "Real Life(VOY)" The Doctor's holographic son listened to Klingon music that wasn't opera. It sounded like a version of Klingon rock music. Now admittedly it was a fictional holodeck family but the EMH doubtless based his offspring's musical tastes off of known musical styles in Voyager's cultural database that were in existence at the time the ship was lost in the Delta Quadrant.

 

[Nyotarules]

Kermit and Miss Piggy will be big on Tellar

 

[MakeshiftPython]

As far as 20th-century music goes, ST09 did it first, anyway.

Kor

Wasn’t jazz early 20th century? Riker at least recreated a 1920s bar when playing jazz.

 

[slappy]

I'm interested in the vast knowledge the orb had on it. Scientists would be studying it for centuries? Really? You'd think they'd be bringing it up every 10 minutes by the 24th century. That they'd create a whole database with just the information that thing had stored on it, just in case it came up.

Then again, maybe the Enterprise D's entire computer system is based on it.

 

[Hythlodeus]

The Federation is over 100 years in the DISC era by now human tastes should be eclectic.

Exactly. That's why...Bowie. Can't get more eclectic than fucking Bowie

 

[matthunter]

It is pretty far fetched that 20/21st century music would still be that popular, but not completely far fetched that it would at least be known and enjoyed by some. We've only just entered the digital age of music and between now and 300 years from now it won't be hard to find and listen to all the music ever made during that period. It's still a bit goofy though. But also, what if its only Stamets and Tilly that like these old-oldies...that would be pretty cute in itself.

It could be that every time he mentions a Beatles cover band, literally no one in the room besides him and Tilly knows what he's talking about. For all we know, when Tilly and Stamets are singing together (also, so stupid cute I couldn't stand it, gimme more please) Reno was just standing there, 'WTF century are these two weirdos from?'

I can buy members of an organisation that works IN SPACE liking songs ABOUT SPACE.

 

[Nyotarules]

They are eclectic. Tilly loves her some Bowie.

Just like I loved Metallica's "Master of Puppets" AND Bach's Double Violin Concerto in D Minor.

A human with experience living on a starship with other aliens, a human liking old human music, I doubt would be considered eclectic, its not exactly out of her cultural reference.

 

[Kor]

Wasn’t jazz early 20th century? Riker at least recreated a 1920s bar when playing jazz.

I mean later 20th-century "popular" type music.
In the last few decades jazz has gone elitist.

Kor

 

[marlboro]

Should have used Heading Out to Eden or The Green Hills of Earth, or something.

 

[Amaris]

A human with experience living on a starship with aliens liking old human music, I doubt would be considered eclectic, its not exactly out of her cultural reference.

Considering that there will be aliens who have hearing ranges vastly different than ours, I wonder how eclectic she can get until it's outside of being pleasurable for her? I mean, really, this is getting silly.

 

[cooleddie74]

I'm interested in the vast knowledge the orb had on it. Scientists would be studying it for centuries? Really? You'd think they'd be bringing it up every 10 minutes by the 24th century. That they'd create a whole database with just the information that thing had stored on it, just in case it came up.

Then again, maybe the Enterprise D's entire computer system is based on it.

For all we know both Professor Richard Galen and Jean-Luc Picard studied records compiled from the orb in this episode.

 

[Burning Hearts of Qo'nos]

The way Picard asks for music in Insurrection:

Picard: Computer. Music. ...No, no, not that. Something Latin. A mambo.

If this is the way most people approach music searches, if one is of quirky musical tastes it's not that far-fetched that you could find a lot of goodies through the computer.

Tilly: Okay computer...based on my music preferences for the current Federation Top 40, can you create a playlist of songs from the last 300 years that would fit my tastes?
Computer: *plays David Bowie anything*
Tilly: !!!!!!! NEW FAVORITE SONG!

 

[drt]

It may be that a contemporary artist simply covered Bowie, and that's what she's singing.

 

[MakeshiftPython]

When Data wanted to learn more about humor, the Enterprise D selected Joe Piscopo as the comedian that should teach humor... I think Bowie is a much safer bet.

 

[Kor]

What are those?
...

They are events that recreate the ambiance of an open-air fair of the English Renaissance era. People dress up in costumes, and there is historical music, jousting, lots of stuff for sale, food vendors, and so on.

Kor

 

[XCV330]

Why can't 23rd century people be all about the polka?

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

I don't know, if you think about it, there really wasn't popular music 200 years ago. Today we listen to songs that are 50, 60 years old. I don't see why they will not be listened to some 200 years from now.

There was a commercial on TV the other day that used a 51-year old song (Elvis Presley's A Little Less Conversation), and I didn't even think twice about it. I think this age of world-wide access to media -- which almost certainly will continue into the future -- makes a 50 or 60 year-old song so accessible and ubiquitous to the general public that the age is irrelevant.

 

[Burning Hearts of Qo'nos]

Why can't 23rd century people be all about the polka?

I am absolutely sure there are, lol. What I wanna know is....what is a 23rd century rave like!!!

 

[Kemaiku]

Stamets has apparently never been intended to be the "proper" Chief Engineer.

A display in "Choose Your Pain" (DSC) did list him by that title:

But according to Ted Sullivan, that was "a flub." (Nevertheless, as it was prominently seen onscreen, we might posit that Stamets did act in that capacity during the time when the ship's primary mission was to get the spore drive working.)

-MMoM

He also has 3 lungs, 4 kidneys, an addition to his liver, is only using 20% of his brain and is *looks carefully* 25% full of shit (and an unidentified "organ 2A-5")

So maybe we don't take it too literally.