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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x02 - "New Eden"

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Olsen wasn't a complete jerk, so he had that going for him.

He did relish the idea of harming Romulans. Out of nowhere, and had explosives as a main hobby while being an engineer, working around things that did not react well to things that go boom.

Olsen had issues. We just never got to see why, maybe he lost great-grand parents in the war.
 
Well that and his "I know a guy who knows a half-Caitian and they're all good at maths right? so I'm right!" kind of rac...speciest (sorry) thinking.

I do love how the asteroid looms into view the minute that line is uttered.
Well he said his Roomate at the Academy was part caitain, not that he knew guy who knew one.

Though that doesn't change your point any.
 
I thought both were handled the same in terms of filming. This brouhaha continues to be as baffling as it is inconsistent.
Your inability to get the joke doesn't mean it wasn't there. A lot of people here have said that they found Connoly's death amusing, and I am pretty sure that's exactly how it was intended, thus making it, in my opinion, distasteful.
 
I don't clearly remember the Olsen thing, that was just one stupid moment in a film full of stupid, so it really didn't register.
 
Well he said his Roomate at the Academy was part caitain, not that he knew guy who knew one.

Though that doesn't change your point any.

I thought that's what he said, and checking my FB post I did hear that during the episode. Sorry about that.
 
They were basically similar situations. Kirk and Burnham both tell Olsen and Connolly to do something and they don’t obey. Even doubly so on Connelly as Pike ordered him to and he still insisted on not listening.

I think it says something that even while on a team of people trying to save a planet under attack by Romulans, Olsen manages to say something so over the top about "kicking their arse" that other people look at him as if to say "Is this guy alright?"
 
I think it says something that even while on a team of people trying to save a planet under attack by Romulans, Olsen manages to say something so over the top about "kicking their arse" that other people look at him as if to say "Is this guy alright?"
New Outrageous Fan Theory: Kelvin Olsen, due to a name change at birth IS Connolly. In every possibly universe he either becomes an engineer or a science officer, who always dies sometime in the range of 2257-2258 by collision with some extraterrestrial object in an easily avoidable accident.

MU Connolly-Olsen should be flying his shuttle into a comet while telling his passenger "Real pilots go by instinct, not view-screens, honey" any time now
 
New Outrageous Fan Theory: Kelvin Olsen, due to a name change at birth IS Connolly. In every possibly universe he either becomes an engineer or a science officer, who always dies sometime in the range of 2257-2258 by collision with some extraterrestrial object in an easily avoidable accident.

MU Connolly-Olsen should be flying his shuttle into a comet while telling his passenger "Real pilots go by instinct, not view-screens, honey" any time now

Ah yes, the Law of Universal Asshole Convergince.
 
One question: Is May Ahearn a Betazoid?

She looked like one - her eyes looked like Betazoid eyes. But Memory Alpha identifies her as human.

It could have been assuming May was human because of her name, but she could be a Betazoid adopted by a human family, couldn't she?
I think she's a human with dark eyes.
 
Yet the writers have Burnham do her own round of mansplaining in the very episode, explaining WWIII to Christopher Pike. (Okay, call it womansplaining if you must, but it's the exact same phenomenon anyway, and to insist otherwise just paints one as a sexist pig. :p )
A man explaining the meaning of words to another man who clearly doesn't understand them makes you a sexist pig? That's about as convoluted and nonsensical as any of the other wild ideas you've come up with, Timo. If you have anything else to say to me I suggest you send me a PM, and stop cowardly bringing up your issues in separate unrelated topics.
 
Regardless, presuming the demographics of rural Indiana are still mostly similar by the 2050s in the Trekverse, I can buy New Eden having "white people" fairly easily. It's harder for me to swallow logically black men as dark as Jacob, because his ancestors would have to have been interbreeding within the black minority for those eight or so generations - which is very unlikely without some level of racism or segregation.

According to First Contact most major cities were destroyed. I can imagine if a nuclear war is about to happen people would flee to the rural areas, perhaps the town was a lot more diverse than it is today. London is a very diverse, multiracial city, if the nation state broke down under nuclear war conditions, all those lily white English villages of the home counties, won't stay so lily white.


200 years is on average considered around eight generations not four, however, children can be born to women in their 40s.
oops my error with the 4 generations, I was writing about humans but thinking about Vulcans for some strange reason.

It warms my heart that the Alt-Right snowflakes felt personally attacked with Connolly’s redshirt death.

They will be clutching their pearls with TOS, white males were killed every episode

Where was the outrage over Olsen's death in ST 09?

They were saving it for Spock and Uhura's liplock

Well that and his "I know a guy who knows a half-Caitian and they're all good at maths right? so I'm right!" kind of rac...speciest (sorry) thinking.

I do love how the asteroid looms into view the minute that line is uttered.
Its only been a 100 years since Terra prime, some Star Trek humans are still racist prats, they just changed targets. (cough, cough, McCoy)
 
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They were basically similar situations. Kirk and Burnham both tell Olsen and Connolly to do something and they don’t obey. Even doubly so on Connelly as Pike ordered him to and he still insisted on not listening.
Yup, but no outrage, no accusations of it being played for humor, and on and on.

Again, it smacks of a double standard and looking for offense.
Your inability to get the joke doesn't mean it wasn't there. A lot of people here have said that they found Connoly's death amusing, and I am pretty sure that's exactly how it was intended, thus making it, in my opinion, distasteful.
The fact that people find it funny doesn't prove intent.
 
The thread is still going on about Pikes science officer :wtf:, the character really doesn't deserve this much attention, we were never meant to like him and he was doomed anyway.

He acted like he knew better but he didn't.

Burnham warned him, then Pike warned him.

Then Pike ordered him and he still didn't listen.

Its his own fault and the end result was no surprise.
 
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