Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x02 - "New Eden"
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It's a well worn trope.
Who said it's meant to be a nice message. It's a human thing. TV and film are chock full of moments of an antagonist getting their comeuppance for being nastily arrogant to the protagonists. And audiences often cheer or chuckle or merely smirk at it when it happens. Maybe you didn't relate to that moment, but I did, and I am sure others did too. It's fine if you didn't, I'm just not sure why it needs to be a big deal.
It's not a big deal. It's still nasty. He was not some horrible villain, he was a mildly annoying guy.
He was being an asshole, and over confident in the technology he was using.
You've got it right.
Ok, a person finding humor in the situation does not mean it was intended to be humorous. I recall a friend bursting out laughing in a scene during "Snatch" when a blindfolded hitman stumbles around traffic and then gets hit by another car.
I have no idea if the scene was meant to be humorous but my friend found humor in it. I'm not saying people can't find the scene funny. I do not think it was intended to be humorous but I could be wrong.
I certainly did not find it funny, nor has anyone manage to give me an example where I'm like "That's a funny death."
But, anyway, "New Eden". I'm about to re-watch it again. Can't believe I haven't done that yet. Seeing the church on the view screen was something different for Discovery.
Lots of characters on the show have acted like dicks. Many of them are still alive with future dickishness on their part a distinct possibility. I get the impression that Connelly's death is a little more situational than you appear willing to accept.
I liked the moment when Tilly runs out of sickbay to go to the bridge and there's the momentary pause where she forgets which direction to go, turns around out of sight of the camera and awkwardly runs in the opposite direction. No comical music, no sound effects, just a silent pause and she runs the other way.
That worked for me. I audibly laughed.
In that replacement for After Trek show the producers said that scene was not in the script. It was an improvisation added by director Frakes.
I liked that Tilly wrong direction gag, too. Also loved the "Guess you had to be there" type quip Saru gave to Pike. Also enjoyed the pained chortle Pike gave when Michael joked about Vulcan humour.
The only joke that seemed a bit forced for me was the Linus sneeze. Too crass for my taste, never been into bodily function jokes. Nevertheless I liked the new alien crew member and hope they feature him again. Some of the subtle reactions around it were pretty amusing.
The only joke that seemed a bit forced for me was the Linus sneeze. Too crass for my taste, never been into bodily function jokes. Nevertheless I liked the new alien crew member and hope they feature him again. Some of the subtle reactions around it were pretty amusing.
No worries. I was typing on my phone, and although my thumb-type skills have gotten better over the years, it doesn't come as natural to me as keyboard typing, leading those posts to be somewhat briefer and lacking in nuance.
I find it patently ridiculous honestly how invisible multiracial humans have been in the Trekverse. There have been more actors playing human-alien hybrids in Trek than multiracial actors. It also makes little sense, because we know that interracial dating/relationships are not seen as anything unusual at all. The logical outcome of interracial dating is interracial people. Yet they are absent.
That said, even by the 23th century we wouldn't expect everybody - on New Eden or Earth - to mix into the same shade of brown. But in environments where there are lots of people thrown together of diverse origins - whether a colony which started with only enough people to fit in a small church, or a quasi-military organization which recruits folks from all over - the number of interracial marriages should be very, very high.
True enough. I mean, Lorca strongly intimated that he had an ancestor who was Chinese, which does not fit with either his looks or his name.
I've a couple of cousins who background include Hispanic and Chinese grandparents. You wouldn't guess it by looking at them. Genetics is a funny thing. My wife is Hispanic on her mother's side. But looking at her blue eyes, pale skin and auburn hair no one would think it.
I've a feeling May is the product of Tilly's memories. So May is essentially a young teenage girl.
Agree with both of you. Didn't strike me as a funny moment. It struck me as a stark contrast to Burnhams past arrogance and inability to trust her superiors, except this guy paid a quick and ultimate price, where in Burnhams case she got lucky.
I liked the moment when Tilly runs out of sickbay to go to the bridge and there's the momentary pause where she forgets which direction to go, turns around out of sight of the camera and awkwardly runs in the opposite direction. No comical music, no sound effects, just a silent pause and she runs the other way.
That worked for me. I audibly laughed.
That was apparently unscripted, and was Frakes and Wiseman having some fun.
Would folks be having the same problem if Connelly had actually been wearing a Red Shirt?
Would that obvious of a Trek Trope, have eased the discomfort of it being weirdly funny?
It was definitely intended as macabre humor based on very familiar past imagery, so if They had gone all in with the analogy, would that have been less of a questionable scene?
Would that obvious of a Trek Trope, have eased the discomfort of it being weirdly funny?
It was definitely intended as macabre humor based on very familiar past imagery, so if They had gone all in with the analogy, would that have been less of a questionable scene?
Would folks be having the same problem if Connelly had actually been wearing a Red Shirt?
Would that obvious of a Trek Trope, have eased the discomfort of it being weirdly funny?
It was definitely intended as macabre humor based on very familiar past imagery, so if They had gone all in with the analogy, would that have been less of a questionable scene?
I think said people should re-watch "The Man Trap". The first "Red Shirt" was actually a Blue Shirt there too!
The picture of May in the year book photo was a different actress. Her personality might be from memories, but unless Tilly had seen her since then, not her physical look.
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