Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x01 - "Brother"

[Vger23]

I'm actually amazed to report that my CBSAA experience on Thursday was absolutely flawless. And I'm just coming off watching the BR disks of S1, so I was expecting to be disappointed.

It was really great.

 

[ozzywiz]

You "dinged" the episode for something that's not even part of the show? Color me confused.

Tilly is not an Autistic character and was never intended to be.

Pardon me but I am autistic, and her characterisation in the first episode was the closest to a genuine portrayal of autism that any sci-fi show I’ve ever watched has come. I was genuinely excited then that somebody I immediately related to would be portrayed in Star Trek, unfortunately I can’t be excited by this any longer. Perhaps you don’t have a problem with that, but for me it’s rather a shame.

 

[ozzywiz]

What on earth makes you think Tilly is supposed to be autistic?

Why, do you have a problem with her characterisation in the first episode?

 

[Firebird]

Correct. If Kurtzman is going to canonize Hobus in the Picard series, it would be inconsistent to de-canonize Sybok in Discovery.

Why would Kurtzman, who was 1/2 of the writing team that created the supernova for ST09, recanonize something he introduced into the canon?

 

[Vger23]

Pardon me but I am autistic, and her characterisation in the first episode was the closest to a genuine portrayal of autism that any sci-fi show I’ve ever watched has come. I was genuinely excited then that somebody I immediately related to would be portrayed in Star Trek, unfortunately I can’t be excited by this any longer. Perhaps you don’t have a problem with that, but for me it’s rather a shame.

Well, in fairness, it's never been said onscreen that she is NOT autistic. I don't see why you couldn't continue to interpret the character that way if you like.

 

[Merleva]

Does anyone know who wrote this episode?

I don't, but I would like it a lot if s/he/they got an editor; such howlers as "I will avail myself to you" (Sarek--and he's married to a teacher, so has no excuse) should not make it to the screen. Every episode of Discovery so far has unfortunately contained at least one really awful misuse of English. Seriously, folks, just give the final draft to an English expert to check over. This is painful, and jolts one's enjoyment of an absorbing story. I have been a devoted Trek watcher since it began, and am still fascinated by how the Trekverse is developing. Stop misusing the language, folks, it hurts.

 

[Tuskin38]

I don't, but I would like it a lot if s/he/they got an editor; such howlers as "I will avail myself to you" (Sarek--and he's married to a teacher, so has no excuse) should not make it to the screen. Every episode of Discovery so far has unfortunately contained at least one really awful misuse of English. Seriously, folks, just give the final draft to an English expert to check over. This is painful, and jolts one's enjoyment of an absorbing story. I have been a devoted Trek watcher since it began, and am still fascinated by how the Trekverse is developing. Stop misusing the language, folks, it hurts.

I'm not seeing the issue here.

 

[Reyman]

From the actress herself regarding autism

Mary Wiseman‏Verified account @may_wise


"Tilly was never specifically described as on the spectrum and it wasn't my intention to play her on the autism spectrum."

 

[oberth]

I don't, but I would like it a lot if s/he/they got an editor; such howlers as "I will avail myself to you" (Sarek--and he's married to a teacher, so has no excuse) should not make it to the screen. Every episode of Discovery so far has unfortunately contained at least one really awful misuse of English. Seriously, folks, just give the final draft to an English expert to check over. This is painful, and jolts one's enjoyment of an absorbing story. I have been a devoted Trek watcher since it began, and am still fascinated by how the Trekverse is developing. Stop misusing the language, folks, it hurts.

language will have changed till then and sarek isn't even a native speaker

 

[oberth]

I don't, but I would like it a lot if s/he/they got an editor; such howlers as "I will avail myself to you" (Sarek--and he's married to a teacher, so has no excuse) should not make it to the screen. Every episode of Discovery so far has unfortunately contained at least one really awful misuse of English. Seriously, folks, just give the final draft to an English expert to check over. This is painful, and jolts one's enjoyment of an absorbing story. I have been a devoted Trek watcher since it began, and am still fascinated by how the Trekverse is developing. Stop misusing the language, folks, it hurts.

great first post - welcome to the forum

 

[Noname Given]

I don't, but I would like it a lot if s/he/they got an editor; such howlers as "I will avail myself to you" (Sarek--and he's married to a teacher, so has no excuse) should not make it to the screen. Every episode of Discovery so far has unfortunately contained at least one really awful misuse of English. Seriously, folks, just give the final draft to an English expert to check over. This is painful, and jolts one's enjoyment of an absorbing story. I have been a devoted Trek watcher since it began, and am still fascinated by how the Trekverse is developing. Stop misusing the language, folks, it hurts.

Remember: English is Sarek's SECOND language.

 

[oberth]

Remember: English is Sarek's SECOND language.

not true, his second language is cardassian

 

[fireproof78]

Remember: English is Sarek's SECOND language.

I still have a book that had T'Pau speaking with "Thee" and "Thou" in her everyday conversations.

Star Trek: slaughtering the English language for 50 years-and still going strong.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Even native speakers don't speak in perfect English. Doesn't the most famous line in Star Trek contain a grammatical error??

 

[oberth]

Even native speakers don't speak in perfect English. Doesn't the most famous line in Star Trek contain a grammatical error??

make it so?

 

[Nerys Myk]

make it so?

I've heard "to boldly go" is a split infinitive.

 

[oberth]

I've heard "to boldly go" is a split infinitive.

doesn't sound wrong to me - maybe a bit archaic and rather english (as in 'not american')

 

[CorporalClegg]

I've heard "to boldly go" is a split infinitive.

I have heard that too.

 

[oberth]

I have heard that too.

some people in the 19th century tried to outrule that and maybe in america that happened (i don't really know, my degree is in literature not linquistics) but in english english it's not a problem

it's definitively a split infinitive the question is whether this is a problem

 

[DEWLine]

Now I'm curious as to how many languages Sarek developed skill with during his lifetime.